GENTLEMAN Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We are growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Positivity is fine, but it has to be supported with substance.....otherwise it just becomes "Blind faith" You can produce all the stats, but watching that LIverpool game, had so many aspects of encouragement....things that many of us have moaned about not taking place, was in evidence. We know it is one game but some of us thought that our team was incapable of that......one game- yes, but make no mistake they have an impressive line -up and in their own back yard.If we cannot be proud of that performance, there's no hope for us. Ps that game proved to me we are growing mentally, but also thought Bertrand added to that. Edited January 21, 2014 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) If you guys have a couple of minutes, can you read an article I wrote? The title is, "Was that a season changing performance?" http://avillafan.com/site/10852/was-that-a-season-changing-performance/ Thanks guys. Edited January 21, 2014 by Jay.P.A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 If you guys have a couple of minutes, can you read an article I wrote? The title is, "Was that a season changing performance?" http://avillafan.com/site/10852/was-that-a-season-changing-performance/ Thanks guys. Good post Interesting, how you focus on performance as opposed to result As important as results are...good performances breed confidence to all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 ^ Thanks. That's exactly it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Positivity is fine, but it has to be supported with substance.....otherwise it just becomes "Blind faith" You can produce all the stats, but watching that LIverpool game, had so many aspects of encouragement....things that many of us have moaned about not taking place, was in evidence. We know it is one game but some of us thought that our team was incapable of that......one game- yes, but make no mistake they have an impressive line -up and in their own back yard.If we cannot be proud of that performance, there's no hope for us. Ps that game proved to me we are growing mentally, but also thought Bertrand added to that. But it's not just one game. Lambert was the manager in our great run during the second half of last season. I put the inconsistency to certain injuries and a young team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? If you look at the situation he came into and the amount of money he's had, few would've done a better job. Lambert has flaws like any other manager, but being in a shitty situation like this magnifies those flaws because there isn't a large margin for error. He's made mistakes, but overall the job he's done has been very good, and Villa are in much better shape now than they were when he came to the club. I do agree it'd be nice if he would stop buying freaking strikers though. Get a midfield Lambert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) There is a remarkable similarity to the rebuilding job that Paul Lambert has inherited & undertaken to that of the `Shambles` which Graham Taylor had to turn around in 1987. Surely Villa fans can recognise this in the foundations, infrastructure & overall strategy that Lambert is trying to implement & install. The only difference is that due to the finances that are currently dictating football this is actually an even bigger challenge than 25 years ago.. Edited January 22, 2014 by villa-revolution 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am hoping come summer transfer window 2014 we will be in a position to buy 3 or 4 top quality players to supplement our first team. Then keep growing from there. Liverpool was one game though so we will see how we get on these next few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted January 22, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2014 He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? You're right - you cannot just blame injuries and inexperience.... ... just as you cannot simply dismiss the effect they have on performances. Has Lambert made mistakes with formations/tactics/substitutions? Yes. It has contributed to some of our bad performances, just as injuries and inexperience has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? I never had blinkers on in the first place. I take in the oft discussed context of where we were when he took over. I rate him as a good manager doing a difficult job. If anyone ever thought things were going to go perfectly then I think they were setting themselves up for disappointment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Also I truly believe that 95% of managers either would've relegated Villa last year or made squad/transfer decisions that would've put villa in worse shape for the future wage wise and inevitably led to relegation at some point. He's the best man for the job, he just needs to do away with the defensive shit and start having the team play like a Paul Lambert side. Screw clean sheets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaCas Posted January 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? This is getting tired but thankfully you're becoming something of a lone voice now You seem bizarrely keen to regurgitate and hold on to supposed problems from last season - Our start to last season might have had something to do with taking over a side which had won only 3 of their last 23 matches - it might be that Lambert has had to remove players that cost us more than £80m and replace them with players that cost half that - it might be that once we could afford pay players £65k a week and now we are looking to pay only a fraction of that - it might be that there was a poisionous and negative culture around the club when Lambert took over which needed drastic surgery to address In my opinion, 99% of managers would have run a mile but Lambert embraced the challenge, backing himself to build something substantial and sustainable for the future Whilst Lambert, like anyone, is not immune to making mistakes, your assertions of glaring tactical errors is laughable - firstly in that you have the hubris to imagine that whilst Lambert is niave and tactically incompetent, you on the other hand are an expert and have a razor sharp vision of what is required. Secondly, whilst filtering everything through your 20/20 hindsight goggles, you seem totally oblivious to the possibility that Lambert and his coaches might have access to facts and circumstances which effect decisions to which you are absolutely and totally unaware. We were a club in crisis when Lambert took over......he said from day one that this would not be a quick fix. He is building something really positive and whilst we struggled at the start of last season, we are clearly and absolutely in a better place this season. This doesnt mean that I expect us to continue to rise up the league without incident...I'm sure there are many twists and turns to come, but as long as I feel that the trend is a positive one, I will be 100% behind Lambert Edited January 22, 2014 by VillaCas 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? If you look at the situation he came into and the amount of money he's had, few would've done a better job. Lambert has flaws like any other manager, but being in a shitty situation like this magnifies those flaws because there isn't a large margin for error. He's made mistakes, but overall the job he's done has been very good, and Villa are in much better shape now than they were when he came to the club. I do agree it'd be nice if he would stop buying freaking strikers though. Get a midfield Lambert! All very fair points. For me it depends what your opinion is based on. If you think that there are very few alternatives out there under the present circumstances who couldn't do a better job than Lambert then there is no real way in which through debate I or anyone else could change your opinion. If however you look at his overall record while still taking into consideration the constraints he is working under then you might feel that over the 18 month period another manager would have a low threshold to improve upon. This is where I am currently at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 He was also the manager in our terrible start to last season and our poor performances this season where tactical deficiencies cost us points and games. You cannot just blame injuries and inexperience on inconsistency or has one good performance left you with blinkers on again? I never had blinkers on in the first place. I take in the oft discussed context of where we were when he took over. I rate him as a good manager doing a difficult job. If anyone ever thought things were going to go perfectly then I think they were setting themselves up for disappointment. No-one has ever stated on here that they expected things to be perfect, but few on here expected relegation battles with Lambert in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 We're not in a relegation battle at the moment haven't been all this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 But we very easily could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 But we very easily could be. But we're not so it's a moot point. If we do get dragged into it then fair enough but so far this season we've kept ourselves out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 We're closer to the bottom than we are to 9th place. I think its premature to say we're not in a relegation battle. Last season we averaged 1.07 points a game. So far we currently average 1.09 points a game. Have we improved lots or is it more to do with more teams performing worse this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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