$200 Million Takeover

[Harry]

So basically it all looks like another botched effort by Lerner. Up for sale, no buyer, no new contracts, no transfer funds and we are stuck with Lambert.....great.

 

Oh and Albrighton can walk as his contract will be up at the end of next month.

[Ooh-Ah]

Not Marc Albrighton!

[sexbelowsound]

So basically it all looks like another botched effort by Lerner. Up for sale, no buyer, no new contracts, no transfer funds and we are stuck with Lambert.....great.

 

Oh and Albrighton can walk as his contract will be up at the end of next month.

 

Have I missed something? Where have you deduced that from?

[Mantis]

 

So basically it all looks like another botched effort by Lerner. Up for sale, no buyer, no new contracts, no transfer funds and we are stuck with Lambert.....great.

 

Oh and Albrighton can walk as his contract will be up at the end of next month.

 

Have I missed something? Where have you deduced that from?

 

Not as far as I know, just people jumping to conclusions and automatically assuming the worst as usual.

[Big_John_10]

So basically it all looks like another botched effort by Lerner. Up for sale, no buyer, no new contracts, no transfer funds and we are stuck with Lambert.....great.

Oh and Albrighton can walk as his contract will be up at the end of next month.

Have I missed something? Where have you deduced that from?

Not as far as I know, just people jumping to conclusions and automatically assuming the worst as usual.

I read similar when McLeish was first rumoured, when people were concerned the last few January windows and when people thought the last 2 years would be a struggle. And guess what happened?

[Richard]

I'm sure people will all get what they want. and then will want something different in a few months.

[TrinityRoadSteps]

What do we want. A new owner.

 

When do we want it. NOW

 

 

Oh and he has to have at least 5bn apparently 

[DiegoD]

Right. I've finally caught up.

 

- Lots more Kwan puns (very funny, btw)

- Lots of people upset about Kwan puns (which is even funnier, imo)

- Nobody knows exactly what is going on

- BJ10 doesn't like our new owners already.

 

So... nothing surprising, then. 

 

Carry on.

 

I have a feeling daily summaries will be vital to us Australian VTers, I don't think its good for your sanity powering through a days worth of posts on this thread.

[Mantis]

 

 

 

So basically it all looks like another botched effort by Lerner. Up for sale, no buyer, no new contracts, no transfer funds and we are stuck with Lambert.....great.

Oh and Albrighton can walk as his contract will be up at the end of next month.

Have I missed something? Where have you deduced that from?

Not as far as I know, just people jumping to conclusions and automatically assuming the worst as usual.

I read similar when McLeish was first rumoured, when people were concerned the last few January windows and when people thought the last 2 years would be a struggle. And guess what happened?

 

 

That's not really a good comparison. There's been nothing concrete at all and so many conflicting stories from alleged ITKs. As I said, it's just people jumping to conclusions. Villa fans aren't exactly an optimistic bunch.

 

Likewise, I seem to remember when we were signing Benteke many were absolutely convinced that it would not happen and would jump at any chance to proclaim the deal dead.

 

McLeish and the January transfer windows have little bearing on this takeover. It's best to just accept that we don't know much and wait and see what happens.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Mantis

[kingysilvers]

One thing that I’d like to challenge in this thread, hopefully without raining on too many bonfires is the Football Manager type logic that is being applied to each name that is linked with us. It seems everybody is rated based on the “net worth” figure on their wikipedia page, as if that is the number they see when they hit “check balance” on a cash machine, let us keep in mind that this is a figure based on their assets, not their cash. That said, even if it was their cash, it doesn’t mean they’re going to withdraw £200m to buy the club, and do the same again to fill the transfer kitty. Whoever comes in is going to be working some kind of finance deal to fund the investment, this is business, not philanthropy.

 

All that said, while the net worth numbers themselves are misleading, having a big number against your name does not mean you will make a successful football club owner. Let’s have a look at a few examples:

 

Shahid Khan - Net Worth: $3.8 billion - History of sports team ownership in the U.S.

On paper he looks like exactly the kind of person people on here are crying out for, except he’s the owner of Fulham, a team who will be playing Championship football next season. Alarmingly it wouldn’t be too difficult to draw parallels between ourselves and Fulham, and his money wasn’t enough to overcome a shit squad and mismanagement.

 

Lakshmi Mittal - Net Worth: $16.7 billion

Now that is a net worth figure, one of the richest men in the world, yet we all know what has happened at QPR, we’ve all seen the wage bill, we’ve all laughed at Redknapp. This is a club who may yet spend another year in the Championship if the play off final follows the form book.

 

Peter Coates - Net Worth: £750 million

Stoke may not be the most glamorous club in the Premier League but I don’t think anybody can argue with them being well run. Coates is somebody who clearly cares about the club and runs it like a sensible business, not a billionaires plaything. I know I would certainly have swapped our season for theirs.

 

Now I know everybody can point at Chelsea and City as examples of where super rich owners have managed to purchase success but these are the exception rather than the rule. Let us not forget that these (as well pointed out by Matthew Syed) have agendas far beyond football. What we need to hope for is somebody who knows how to run a club well, rather than appearing to have the deepest pockets on paper and then squandering what money is allocated to the club through naive decisions (see: Randy Lerner).

[Mantis]

Good post, but no doubt if we are bought out by somebody who's "only" worth a couple of billion (or heaven forbid less than that!) there will still be lots of complaining in a manner reminiscent of a spoiled child at Christmas.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Mantis

[SikhInTrinity]

I'd like someone of Randy's ilk again but as you someone who can invest as well as having an idea to reach the goal. Unfortunately Randy trusted the wrong people.

[Dodgyknees]

Good post, but no doubt if we are bought out by somebody who's "only" worth a couple of billion (or heaven forbid less than that!) there will still be lots of complaining in a manner reminiscent of a spoiled child at Christmas.

 

You don't like people on here, do you?

[Mantis]

 

Good post, but no doubt if we are bought out by somebody who's "only" worth a couple of billion (or heaven forbid less than that!) there will still be lots of complaining in a manner reminiscent of a spoiled child at Christmas.

 

You don't like people on here, do you?

 

Stop reading what you want to read and read what I've actually written. I was talking about the complaining that will ensure if the new owner isn't ultra-rich (and there's been some of that already), nothing more.

[Dodgyknees]

Good post, but no doubt if we are bought out by somebody who's "only" worth a couple of billion (or heaven forbid less than that!) there will still be lots of complaining in a manner reminiscent of a spoiled child at Christmas.

You don't like people on here, do you?

Stop reading what you want to read and read what I've actually written. I was talking about the complaining that will ensure if the new owner isn't ultra-rich (and there's been some of that already), nothing more.

" Stop reading what you want to read and read what I've actually written. "

Poetry.

[Eames]

The net worth of any potential new owner is largely irrelevent. What is important is how much of that net worth they are prepared to part with on behalf of Aston Villa.

[bobzy]

 

Good post, but no doubt if we are bought out by somebody who's "only" worth a couple of billion (or heaven forbid less than that!) there will still be lots of complaining in a manner reminiscent of a spoiled child at Christmas.

 

You don't like people on here, do you?

 

 

He's right, though.

 

Personally, I don't care much for the individual wealth of a prospective new owner (as I posted elsewhere; I really don't want Villa to be the next Man City/Chelsea) but I DO care about the club being run properly - kingysilvers post is absolutely bang on.

 

People have slagged Lerner off far too much for, essentially, putting his hand in his pocket to the tune of £100m+ - but because that hasn't happened recently and Villa are struggling, it's his fault.  What we need, of course, is for someone to chuck a load of money at the problem (a la Lerner in the early days), get short term success to an extent (a la Lerner in the early days) and then have that person to blame if over-investment costs us in the long run (a la Lerner right now).  The more short termists amongst us will look at the football on the pitch/results and say it's not good enough - time for a change.  I DO think that Lerner has put Aston Villa Football Club in a good position to move forwards after a period of terrible mismanagement.

 

Thus, it's not about the wealth for me; it's about the ability to run a football club well.

[Mantis]

Exactly. We need the club to be well run and you just can't tell that from looking at somebody's net worth.

[Genie]

Ower also has to be foreign. Bit like a new signing, its far more mysterious and exciting that way.

[useless]

If you want Aston VIlla to be above average then it needs someone to invest a lot of money into it. Someone having a large amount of wealth may not be a guarantee that they are going to spend but you might as well have someone who at least has the capacity to do so. Sadly we can't just magically employ the right football people and we'll be all succesful otherwise everyone would be doing it.