Stevo985 Posted May 4, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2015 Stuff is actually happening. It's been a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Is it me or did they do a really shitty job of explaining why Cersei gave the religious police their powers back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Is it me or did they do a really shitty job of explaining why Cersei gave the religious police their powers back? Yes. Big time. The only explicit reason was to get yer gay brother in jail to piss on Queen Hottie's chips. Also just assumed it was a power trip thing. Maybe I missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 It was a bit daft & it's so obvious where it is going to end up. But it does allow some edgy commentary on religious fundamentalism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Is it me or did they do a really shitty job of explaining why Cersei gave the religious police their powers back? Yes. Big time. The only explicit reason was to get yer gay brother in jail to piss on Queen Hottie's chips. Also just assumed it was a power trip thing. Maybe I missed something. Not really a book spoiler but I'll tag it anyway, even if it is strongly implied in the show: The crown are up to their eyes in debt. It's been a thing since season one when Littlefinger was master of coin. They spent quite a bit of time talking about it immediately before Cersei met with the High Sparrow* to the point where she sent Mace Tyrell off to the Iron Bank of Braavos to renegotiate terms (and isolate Margery from her friends/family) but they owe almost as much money to the church as they do to the bank. In the source material there is a section about how Cersei gives the religious police their power back in exchange for them writing off the debt. She feels quite smug about how she is solving problems, blissfully unaware of how she really should be careful what she wishes for. I don't get why they excluded that from the show because it could be done with a couple of lines of dialogue and it hammers home both Cersei's arrogance and the fact that it's really her dad who held all the power that House Lannister could project onto others. Instead they went for something which struck me as confusing. Odd choice from the writers. *is it me or does he really look like Gyles Brandreth? I actually had to google the cast listing to make sure it wasn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Episode 5 spoiler revealed on throne cast... Ser Barristan is dead. Wtf are they doing?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think, what they're doing, is trying to get it all wrapped up in the next two or three years. Shortcuts and new material aplenty. Anyway, there was an interesting focus on/hint toward Jon Snow's parentage this week (from what I remember). I get the impression that this season will end with something significant that has not yet occurred in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think, what they're doing, is trying to get it all wrapped up in the next two or three years. Shortcuts and new material aplenty. Anyway, there was an interesting focus on/hint toward Jon Snow's parentage this week (from what I remember). I get the impression that this season will end with something significant that has not yet occurred in the books. probably best if no one clicks the spoiler that jon sugghhhhh is actually a targaryen,the end product of the lyanna stark rape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Aah **** it. Why did I click? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Is it me or did they do a really shitty job of explaining why Cersei gave the religious police their powers back? Yes. Big time. The only explicit reason was to get yer gay brother in jail to piss on Queen Hottie's chips. Also just assumed it was a power trip thing. Maybe I missed something. Not really a book spoiler but I'll tag it anyway, even if it is strongly implied in the show: The crown are up to their eyes in debt. It's been a thing since season one when Littlefinger was master of coin. They spent quite a bit of time talking about it immediately before Cersei met with the High Sparrow* to the point where she sent Mace Tyrell off to the Iron Bank of Braavos to renegotiate terms (and isolate Margery from her friends/family) but they owe almost as much money to the church as they do to the bank. In the source material there is a section about how Cersei gives the religious police their power back in exchange for them writing off the debt. She feels quite smug about how she is solving problems, blissfully unaware of how she really should be careful what she wishes for. I don't get why they excluded that from the show because it could be done with a couple of lines of dialogue and it hammers home both Cersei's arrogance and the fact that it's really her dad who held all the power that House Lannister could project onto others. Instead they went for something which struck me as confusing. Odd choice from the writers. *is it me or does he really look like Gyles Brandreth? I actually had to google the cast listing to make sure it wasn't... To be honest no, none of that was even hinted at re the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 5, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5, 2015 I think, what they're doing, is trying to get it all wrapped up in the next two or three years. Shortcuts and new material aplenty. Anyway, there was an interesting focus on/hint toward Jon Snow's parentage this week (from what I remember). I get the impression that this season will end with something significant that has not yet occurred in the books. Yep. Massively. Guy in my office told me a "rumour" the other week about Jon Snow which I'm quickly discovering probably wasn't a rumour and was just a big fat spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The Jon Snow parentage theory is just that, a theory, although looking very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Holding that breast they way he was there's no way you could turn her away. I wood never make commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Wood. Intentional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Wood. Intentional? Ya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Twas a nice boob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Meditating a bit on R + L = J. If that's the case Jon still has no right to the throne because he would still be a bastard. Just not Ned Stark's bastard. Danny still has the better claim to the throne so its not an automatic thing. I'm still convinced that 3 of the living Stark kids with living Direwolves (Brann, Arya and Jon Snow) will all become Wargs and use them to control Danny's dragons to defeat the White Walkers. That could lead to a "Targaryen restoration" perhaps with Jon marrying Sansa? Danny I'm afraid is going to die. You just know Martin has the stones to do it. Edited May 6, 2015 by Eames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 But what if Rhaegar secretly married Lyanna and some long lost documentation of that in, say, the Winterfell crypts is what blows open the revelation that Jon Snow is legit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Change of mind from me I once said I don't enjoy GOT, and couldn't get into it. I've spent the past two months catching up and am now with everybody else. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted May 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Poor Jorah Friend-stone Edited May 11, 2015 by villarule123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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