Czarnikjak

It is not straight forward. Last year we had 3 different teams broadly speaking : 1. U18 league team ( without best under 18 players who were part of U23 league team) 2. U23 league team ( over 18 players and the best of under 18) 3. FA Youth Cup team ( all best under 18 players)

Will find out more about Chelsea today, when they come against top opposition But I have been very impressed with them so far. They mauled Crystal Palace, not letting them have a single shot on target. Brushed aside Arsenal like they were not even there. Got a draw at Liverpool playing most of the game with 10 men. What's not to be impressed with?

I was thinking the same. 4-3-3 with Ghazi dropping to the bench. But watching smith's press conference yesterday i have no idea anymore. He was adamant that he has no intention of playing Watkins or Ings out wide...only through the middle together. If this is the case, ghazi might start LW and Bailey RW. Leaving only 2 in midfield.

Interesting proposal for a reform of English football pyramid by Fair Game organisation : https://www.fairgameuk.org/about Part of their Manifesto : THE FAIR GAME SOLUTION • Abolition of parachute and solidarity payments. • 25% of The Premier League TV rights both domestic and international - and new income streams such as streaming - goes to the rest of the pyramid and independent football organisations such as the FSA, PFA, LMA (up from 14% currently - note to properly tackle the cliff edge between Premier League and the Championship this proportion would have to be significantly higher). • The Introduction of the Sustainability Index as a measure to distribute funds fairly. This total pot is then split two ways: • 20% is given as baseline funding to clubs to spend in whatever way they see fit. • 80% split dependent on a club’s sustainability category rating (30% unrestricted; 70% on capex and community projects that can be either rolled over or backdated five years and should explicitly include investment in women’s football). To ensure cliff edges rise consistently, each division’s split of this money needs to be: • 46% Championship • 24% League One • 13% League Two • 7% National League • 3.5% National League North and South • 2% Women’s Super League • 1% Women’s Super League 2 (note: WSL divisions only have 12 clubs) Assuming every club reaches the highest standards on the Sustainability Index, this would give: • A category 1 Championship club not in receipt of parachute payments £13.91m an uplift of £8.81m • A category 1 League One club £7.26m an uplift of £6.65m • A category 1 League Two club £3.93m an uplift of £3.33m • A category 1 National League £2.12m – when they previous received nothing • A category 1 National League N & S club £1.06m • A category 1 WSL club £724,000; and • A category 1 WSL2 club £362,000

My previous post might have come accross defeatist, but I am trying to stay realistic. Not only is the system rigged against us, but we also started from very low level after Lerners and Dr Tony's exploits. In last 11 years, 43 out of 44 CL spots went to Sky6 teams...this is a sobering start if you hoping on us breaking the top 4 anytime soon.

I don't read it as breaking the top 4. It's all about sustainable success. They will hope of course to occasionally make the top 4, but to stay in it year in year out is nigh on impossible in next 10 years, unless some seismic change happens in European football

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall Purslow or NSWE at any point saying that the objective is to break into the top 4. The only quotes i can find are that the objective is to bring "sustainable success" and to "regularly challenge for europe" Very diffent to breaking into top 4.

We have "net spend" cash this transfer window, contrary to popular belief. See my summary post few pages back (in ffp thread). Part of it might be to cover this transfer window cash outflow and the rest to cover operational expenses until next big pay check from Premier League arrives.

Novelty wears of very quickly. We don't know, if after 10 years of success and participation in CL every season, Villa would fill 50k stadium in some meaningless CL group game. Tickets are not cheap mind you. £70 quid or so.

Definitely not a Def Con 1 situation, but it might indicate that the point where the club is expected to be self sufficient is coming. Purslow always said that the objective was for the club to be sustainable, but the date was never put on it. NSWE could have provided the club with interest free loan or capital injection but decided not to. Which is fair enough, their money their decision. I’m still optimistic for the future under NSWE.

It won’t be quite that much, I think. Merit payments, paid in May are £20m for 11th position ( £2m more or less for each position up or down). Domestic equal share paid in August 2022 is £34.4m Is it secured against any other income? I skimped quickly through the loan notice and only these two stood out.

I am not sure of the significance of registering it against AVFC and not NSWE, I wouldn’t think it makes big difference. What’s interesting is that the loan seems to be secured not only against 21/22 merit payments ( which are paid in May) but also against 22/23 Equal share payments. Am I getting it right? this would suggest, larger, longer term loan.

Barkley was an expensive disaster. No harm no foul? His "loan trial" cost us £11m that season. For comparison grealish cost us £6.5m in 20/21 and Watkins £10m Barkley was by far our most expensive player on the books last season.

Great, so now we have PSG president, who is also a president of ECA ( European clubs association), crafting with uefa new set of FFP rules to replace the existing ones... What could possibly go wrong?

Good job we have Christian Purslow in charge who once, whilst in charge of Liverpool, described himself as "Fernando Torres of finance"

Such a random signing…

One small correction on your "paper" figures as you call them. out of £48m revenue lost in 19/20, only £36m was deferred to 20/21. £12m was permanently lost due to COVID. Also in 20/21 there will be some permanent loss in terms of gate receits (~£16m) and commercial ( ~£3m) and TV rebate (~£3m). SwissRamble has excellent post detailing COVID loses - https://threader.app/thread/1429685285755949056 Overall, Covid cost us around £34m in real money that we lost (£12m in 19/20 and £22m in 20/21). Not too bad if you consider that the likes of Spurs lost £176m revenues. So the reported, paper figures will be more like this: 18/19 - £54.3m 19/20 - £112m 20/21 - £186m 21/22 - £245m (or £275m if you account whole £100m profit from JG this year, as I believe will be the case) Excellent Revenue "growth" to show in 1 pager PDF to uninformed audience

To avoid confusion let me list it year by year: 19/20 - reported revenue £112m ( but £48m revenue loss attributed to covid, so the underlying revenue was £160m 20/21 - estimated underlying revenue ( excluding covid adjustments) £172m 21/22 - estimated underlying revenue £175m - if we finish 11th (plus profit from sale of Grealish on top of that )

Not quite. The deferred income was moved from 19/20 to 20/21 accounts. Not affecting 21/22. TV revenues depend on final league position. Each position is worth about £2m. Unlikely we gonna be much that much higher than 11th for it to be significant. Commercial revenues will be higher, but not massively. Our main commercial deals are the same or similar in value to previous years. Overall revenue (not including player sales) will be around £175-180m, depending on league position, unless we suddenly pull some big sponsorship deal out of a bag ( like stadium or training ground naming rights)

How nice, AVTV just issued me with the refund without me even asking for it. I would be happy for the club to keep the £4 but oh well.

Our lease agreement seems to be only for 5years, as per the accounts below. I have no idea what happens after these 5 years, new lease at fair market value? Anyway we are set at £2.6m for now.

That rule describes something Premier League calls "Cash Losses" which is used to determine if Secure funding from your owner is required for a club. Not strictly related to P&S calculation. You are right about addons, any conditional addons wouldn't be immediately booked as profit, only upon meeting those conditions. For Jack though, the remaining £25m is not conditional, it will therefore be fully recognised in 21/22 accounts.

@blandy From horses mouth, aka Swiss Ramble, guru of football finances: "Any profit made from selling players is immediately booked to the accounts"

As long as they are on a plane to Croatia tonight, as they promised they would, I don't care who's fault it is or who messed up.

He has not been called up for ages