TheFish Posted October 19, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2023 20 hours ago, oishiiniku_uk said: Playing him together with Guimaraes is what seems odd to me. They both want to do the creative stuff, but maybe not so much of the defensive work. Either one of them plus two more physical & energetic CM/DMs makes more sense in Newcastle's system, I think. I think that's kind of right but unfortunately we've not had a settled run of games with both Joelinton or Longstaff available. Those two players ar emore than happy to do the hard work and free up Bruno and Tonali to operate in a more attacking role. I think the idea was to replicate the threat we had on the right hand side through Bruno, Trippier and Almiron, but on the left. In so much as Tonali would be right sided with Almiron and Trippier and Bruno would build that kind of relationship on the left with Burn/Hall and Gordon. Tonali and Bruno are quite happy pressing opponents, but as you allude to, they much prefer to be creating danger instead of snuffing it out. I think most Newcastle fans were expecting us to go in for an out and out DM. However, I did see something online about Bruno's threat being at it's most impactful when he's joining the attack from deep, rather than when he's already up there. Not sure if that's because of a lack of quality around him, or whatever, but it was interesting nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFish Posted October 19, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2023 17 hours ago, bobzy said: I don't think Newcastle should be heading down the "misrepresentation" route Look, PIF and KSA are entirely separate entities! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheFish said: Look, PIF and KSA are entirely separate entities! Also, always worth repeating for visiting fans, but it’s good having you posting on here. Sensible discussion and not on the wind-up (all the time) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Also, always worth repeating for visiting fans, but it’s good having you posting on here. Sensible discussion and not on the wind-up (all the time) Agreed @TheFish does seem to be balanced and largely accurate in his comments. Ater initially giving it the biggun on arrival and looking like he was fishing for insults, turned out to be pretty insightful, rather than inciteful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrBlack Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: What a shocker that is. Wonder how many millions they're paying for that privilege, and what conceivable benefit Saudia get from this sponsorship that would make it worth their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 The PL being able to vote on it is working well then The rising tide raises all boats striking again, they don't give a **** about Newcastle falsely inflating the market benefits everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 How fortuitous! It probably went something like this: 'Quick, we're about to lose Tonali for a year - we need to find another 50 million ASAP and we're already close to the wire with FFP!' 'Hmmm... Let me just get on the phone to our old pals at Saudia and see if they're interested in extending our deal...' 'Oh boy, praise be to Geordie - I mean Saudi - Arabia!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Ironic how they were all marching through London to the PL offices screaming corruption 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) On 18/10/2023 at 14:26, VillaAlex said: Tonali hasn't really settled other than a good start against us typically. Their fans aren't impressed with his performances and think he needs a year to settle in. A year playing though not sitting on his arse. I do think he was a bit of a strange signing for this league. Newcastle wanted Barella first didn't he? He is world class for sure, Tonali more a work in progress really. Not sure if agency represents both players but I imagine they got knocked back by Barella not wanting to leave and Tonali was offered instead. They do need more depth in that area with Longstaff, Joelinton and Willock all injured this season so far. Got a feeling they might go in for Conor Gallagher in January if Tonali gets banned for the rest of the season. Edited October 19, 2023 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 suing HMRC... Probably petitioning to list on the Saudi stock exchange or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 God everything about this club is absolutely objectionable. Full of scum in every way possible from the fans to the owners. The stadium is overdue a stray hamas rocket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Rodders said: God everything about this club is absolutely objectionable. Full of scum in every way possible from the fans to the owners. The stadium is overdue a stray hamas rocket. The fans are fine - but the rest of it? Yeah, they need binning off. Literally everything that's wrong with modern football encapsulated in one club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Is this the airline that doesn't actually have any planes? Edit... My bad, they have planes Edited October 20, 2023 by jimmygreaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 48 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: Is this the airline that doesn't actually have any planes? Edit... My bad, they have planes They have planes and I think some routes but haven't started yet, none of the planes have flown They actually make sense as a big sponsorship push, get their new brand out there Also think tourism washing is bigger than sports washing, if they can sell SA as a place to be the rest will follow, just like dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 48 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: Is this the airline that doesn't actually have any planes? Edit... My bad, they have planes They do have planes, but they don't fly out of Newcastle. Only Manchester and London. Official airline partner, who doesn't even fly from anywhere close to the city the club is based in. The scummy 6 started this with their "official tractor sponsors", "official second hand tyre distributor", "official door stop partner" and other such relationships. Newcastle just joining the bandwagon, assisted ably by the state that owns them and Premier League that cares more about money than sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 20 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Move along here. No sports washing. Just total coincidence that the club is promoting a major Saudi airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, MrBlack said: They do have planes, but they don't fly out of Newcastle. Only Manchester and London. Official airline partner, who doesn't even fly from anywhere close to the city the club is based in. The scummy 6 started this with their "official tractor sponsors", "official second hand tyre distributor", "official door stop partner" and other such relationships. Newcastle just joining the bandwagon, assisted ably by the state that owns them and Premier League that cares more about money than sport. While it's 'legally questionable' I wonder why more PL teams don't benefit from such deals. I mean, every owner is a billionaire with some crazy business connections. Why can't Villa have Fortress Investment as an official Financial partner in a £100m deal? If Newcastle get away with it, why can't Villa or West Ham? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Rodders said: God everything about this club is absolutely objectionable. Full of scum in every way possible from the fans to the owners. The stadium is overdue a stray hamas rocket. Nah. Mike Ashley was awful. These new owners are the absolute opposite of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 As a shock to absolutely nobody, and by sheer coincidence. Newcastle are being linked with a loan move for Ruben Neves! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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