TrentVilla Posted February 20, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2013 So I make that 6 games for Saunders in charge at Wolves and he is still looking for his first win, it will end in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2013 Im not sure reaction be the same if we got e.g. Tony Pulis or Big Sam. I could imagine anger but not many people marching down to the gates of Villa Park and protesting like they did when Eck took over Just to go back to this, you're right the reaction wouldn't be the same if we appointed them. BUt that's not because they didn't manage Blues, it's because they have a decent reputation. They both play awful football, but Pulis has turned Stoke from a championship team into a solid, established Premier League team and Big Sam has a reputation for being a decent yet unattractive manager. Now if we appointed Gary Megson or Tony Mowbray, which are much more valid comparisons given their records, then I would expect the reaction to be very much the same as it was with mcLeish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Tony Mowbray actually tried to play decent football at WBA. they just had no steel or defensive solidity. If anything his time at WBA is very similar to Lambo at VIlla for football ideals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Since David Flitcroft was appointed at Barnsley they have lost one (his first match), drawn one, and won eight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So I make that 6 games for Saunders in charge at Wolves and he is still looking for his first win, it will end in tears. Wolves in League 1 would be shocking. For me, they are the 3rd biggest club outside the PL, after Leeds United and Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2013 Tony Mowbray actually tried to play decent football at WBA. they just had no steel or defensive solidity. If anything his time at WBA is very similar to Lambo at VIlla for football ideals Doesn't change the fact that Mowbray's team was awful. "good" football isn't good when you're finishing bottoms of the table. Point is, Alex McLeish had proved that he was not up to managing a premier league team. THAT is what most villa fans were upset about. Of course there was a little animosity at him coming from SHA, but that's not why he got the majority of the reaction he did. He got it because he's awful, we knew he'd be awful and he was awful. Again, my point is if you appointed someone with a similar record with no connection to managing SHA (megson is a good example) then I would expect the reaction to be similar, especially considering at the time we were at a lot higher station than we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So I make that 6 games for Saunders in charge at Wolves and he is still looking for his first win, it will end in tears. Wolves in League 1 would be shocking. For me, they are the 3rd biggest club outside the PL, after Leeds United and Forest. sheffield united, sheffield wednesday & blackburn are bigger id say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) Impossible to quantify. Wolves were (arguably) the biggest club and best team in the world in the 1950s. If the European Cup had been implemented five years earlier than it was we might have seen years of Wolves dominance instead of Real Madrid and everything would be different. I don't think you can say that of any of the other clubs. Edited February 20, 2013 by The_Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 20, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2013 All true Rev but there are quite a few if's in that and I'm still not convinced that makes them a 'bigger club' than some of those previously mentioned, other than Blackburn, they are definitely a bigger club than Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 hard to define big clubs due to trophies and amount of fans etc but Id consider Middlesbrough to be big enough club down there mainly on the calibre of players that has played for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 20, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't think that is a good measuring stick to be honest Zatman, they had a short period of having players on their books way beyond a level they could or should have ever imagined possible simply because of a wealthy owner willing to pay quite staggering wages (Ravanelli even had his household bills paid by the club). It is similar to Blackburn having Shearer and co but that era and the players in it is hardly representative of their history or their respective size as clubs in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I don't care for the 'big' club debate. History means nowt in football save for making a nice tour of the stadium, or for fans to reminisce about. It has little to no importance on the clubs current position. Wolves may have a history but they are, currently, shit at playing football and thus deserve to be where they are. If we go down it will be because we too are shit at playing football and our history won't change a thing about it. If you must debate who is 'bigger' then how much money a club makes is a fairer barometer in the modern game. Then it isn't a case of who is 'bigger', but who is more successful. Leave cock comparing to the daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 20, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2013 If you don't care for the debate don't enter it, nobody forced you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 20, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ince off to a cracking start this evening away at Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 You know, I never realised how rich Wolves history is until now.The dirty dingle bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark8691 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Saw a video on a wolves forum showing some fans reactions after the Barnsley game Click Here (Warning: Viewer Discretion is Advised.) Don't mind Wolves (except chavs like that in the video!) and hope they can get the results they need to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Perhaps wolves are trying to recreate the mid 80's when they went down all 4 divisions :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 So I make that 6 games for Saunders in charge at Wolves and he is still looking for his first win, it will end in tears. Wolves in League 1 would be shocking. For me, they are the 3rd biggest club outside the PL, after Leeds United and Forest. sheffield united, sheffield wednesday & blackburn are bigger id say. Sheffield Wednesday maybe. Blackburn? Wolves dwarf them in terms of history and fanbase. Blackburn have done sweet FA except for winning the league 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 blackburn won Carling Cup in that time as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 blackburn won Carling Cup in that time as well Ok, but this is the same team that get crowds of about 13k now they're in the Championship. Small club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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