Richard Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Wish he'd gone 5 years ago when I posted he should 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneNightInRotterdam Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Hope someone blows up his **** restaurant. Without people in it of course. Edited December 12, 2015 by OneNightInRotterdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) 2 hours ago, imavillan said: He and only he is the person to blame for the mess we are in. not Houllier, not McLeish, not Sherwood, not Lambert, not O'Neill and not Gardde. I have said it before, leadership and direction comes from the top and he has shown neither. The flags, the tattoo, the Holte Pub, the scarves, the ''Proud history bright future'', the General, the banners, the promises, the hope and then..... ....the lies, the silence, the incompetence, the mismanagement, the absence, the divorce, the transfers, the recruitment, the treatment of the fans, the contempt, the hypocrisy...... all of this is why Randolph Lerner will go down in history as one of the worst ''custodians'' of this football club. Seven lines that sum Lerner up a treat. Great post. Edited December 12, 2015 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Hope someone blows up his **** restaurant. Without people in it of course. I hope his restaurant starts charging £200k per meal and that they sponsor us Level the playing field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneNightInRotterdam Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I hope his restaurant starts charging £200k per meal and that they sponsor us Level the playing field #CheekyNandos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I hope he loses every penny of daddies money. The cock munching anal bead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Lets face it .....He just wanted us to occupy his mind, like buying a lego set. Problem is there were far more pieces to the set than he originally thought and putting all together was a nightmare too.....too complicated. "**** it I'll buy a restaurant.....less pieces to go wrong. ........its like toy story all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 In my honest opinion.....If he had of Kept Steve Stride and worked with him and given him the resources. You would have a much different Aston Villa Football Club Today. For the better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 2 minutes ago, TRO said: In my honest opinion.....If he had of Kept Steve Stride and worked with him and given him the resources. You would have a much different Aston Villa Football Club Today. For the better. IIRC, Stride wanted out. i'd welcome him back in a heartbeat, but I think he was done, and isn't in football anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1 minute ago, maqroll said: IIRC, Stride wanted out. i'd welcome him back in a heartbeat, but I think he was done, and isn't in football anymore. I might be wrong, but I think he wanted out because, he wasn't wanted.....It was one of them ....Randy seen him as a Doug Man Steve was Villa through and through. ....but there is so much that goes on that we don't get to know.....otherwise we ALL may have different views. but we are all expected to just carry on and pay the piper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 11 hours ago, imavillan said: He and only he is the person to blame for the mess we are in. not Houllier, not McLeish, not Sherwood, not Lambert, not O'Neill and not Gardde. I have said it before, leadership and direction comes from the top and he has shown neither. The flags, the tattoo, the Holte Pub, the scarves, the ''Proud history bright future'', the General, the banners, the promises, the hope and then..... ....the lies, the silence, the incompetence, the mismanagement, the absence, the divorce, the transfers, the recruitment, the treatment of the fans, the contempt, the hypocrisy...... all of this is why Randolph Lerner will go down in history as one of the worst ''custodians'' of this football club. Agree with all of that except O'Neill, who not only bought shit players on insane fees and wages, he let other players walk who we'd piss ourselves to have back today. Lerner is the root, O'Neill is a big old branch. The rest of them get a pass, as inept as they were in their own ways, they were just using what they were given. As crazy as it sounds now...Alex McLeish wasn't as bad as he's been made out to be...he was just a lackey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) 3 minutes ago, maqroll said: Agree with all of that except O'Neill, who not only bought shit players on insane fees and wages, he let other players walk who we'd piss ourselves to have back today. Lerner is the root, O'Neill is a big old branch. The rest of them get a pass, as inept as they were in their own ways, they were just using what they were given. As crazy as it sounds now...Alex McLeish wasn't as bad as he's been made out to be...he was just a lackey. ditto Martin O'Neill has his true vocation......a million miles away from the transfer Market. Martin wanted to be Brian Clough....but no one told him Peter Taylor spotted all the players......just like Tony Barton did for Ron. Edited December 13, 2015 by TRO 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 12 hours ago, imavillan said: He and only he is the person to blame for the mess we are in. not Houllier, not McLeish, not Sherwood, not Lambert, not O'Neill and not Gardde. I have said it before, leadership and direction comes from the top and he has shown neither. The flags, the tattoo, the Holte Pub, the scarves, the ''Proud history bright future'', the General, the banners, the promises, the hope and then..... ....the lies, the silence, the incompetence, the mismanagement, the absence, the divorce, the transfers, the recruitment, the treatment of the fans, the contempt, the hypocrisy...... all of this is why Randolph Lerner will go down in history as one of the worst ''custodians'' of this football club. Take a bow, Son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I believe Lerner set up all our pi55 poor managers as pawns to direct the flack from the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 If you think back on the MON appointment, what was it really based on? Minor **** Leicester hype, that's IT. We'd have been better off with any of the Spurs managers over that time, and a half dozen other guys. O'Neill is the biggest fraud in Premier League management history, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1 minute ago, maqroll said: If you think back on the MON appointment, what was it really based on? Minor **** Leicester hype, that's IT. We'd have been better off with any of the Spurs managers over that time, and a half dozen other guys. O'Neill is the biggest fraud in Premier League management history, IMO. I have to agree and I said to my pals at the time .....all these shit signings will come back to haunt us and put the club back ten years and with the 6-6-6 it was treated with contempt. don't get me wrong, its manifested itself far worse since, but thats what happens when you fail in the transfer market.....There is no shells left to carry the fight, you have to sell some of your guns to buy shells. If as a football manager, you are weak in the art of transfer dealing/recruitment, even if its just identifying them, chances are you will fail in the job. its probably 70-80% of the art of surviving......getting that bit right...... you can have coaches for the training ground, but recruitment has to be the Manager IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Randy Lerner simply didn't/hasn't have enough money to negate our poor signings record. With our poor signings record Record you would need Carlos Sim or Bill Gates to fund it on a personal basis. Randy's biggest failings has been all the people he has appointed. thats talking in just a general sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Drifting OT here, but had O'Neill actually RESPECTED Aston Villa Football Club, we might not be in the shit we're in now. He was more concerned with personal glory and short term success than building a foundation. He's no Brian Clough. Far from it, actually. In all honesty, I have more contempt for O'Neill than Lerner, because O'Neill should have known better... Lerner was just a dumb American looking for a hobby. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 12 minutes ago, maqroll said: Drifting OT here, but had O'Neill actually RESPECTED Aston Villa Football Club, we might not be in the shit we're in now. He was more concerned with personal glory and short term success than building a foundation. He's no Brian Clough. Far from it, actually. In all honesty, I have more contempt for O'Neill than Lerner, because O'Neill should have known better... Lerner was just a dumb American looking for a hobby. We may be in the minority here.....but I could not possibly agree with you more. You are spot on. ps but one of our ex players told me that you would not have a days training without hearing Brian did it this way, Brian did it that way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 17 minutes ago, maqroll said: Drifting OT here, but had O'Neill actually RESPECTED Aston Villa Football Club, we might not be in the shit we're in now. He was more concerned with personal glory and short term success than building a foundation. He's no Brian Clough. Far from it, actually. In all honesty, I have more contempt for O'Neill than Lerner, because O'Neill should have known better... Lerner was just a dumb American looking for a hobby. MON in many ways was like your modern day CEO, run things for the short term only, **** the long term. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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