Morpheus Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 yeah the 3-5-2 was unfairly criticized, obviously it didnt work though we beat Liverpool BUT he needed that extra body to make up for inexperience. If Vlaar or even Dunne had of been fit we wouldnt have seen it. we had a back 4 of Lowton-Clark -Baker - Bennett and had about 50 premier league games between them at that stage Two of those players were purchased by Lambert when we needed more experience at the back while Dunne was injured and should have been replaced even with a loanee when finances were tight. He also purchased a very poor DM when we needed better. You simply cannot now proportion all of the blame to something else based on blind allegiance to the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 do you think sylla is poor player or a poor dm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Harsh. I thought Sylla coming in made a difference for us from the Reading away game onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 yeah the 3-5-2 was unfairly criticized, obviously it didnt work though we beat Liverpool BUT he needed that extra body to make up for inexperience. If Vlaar or even Dunne had of been fit we wouldnt have seen it. we had a back 4 of Lowton-Clark -Baker - Bennett and had about 50 premier league games between them at that stage Two of those players were purchased by Lambert when we needed more experience at the back while Dunne was injured and should have been replaced even with a loanee when finances were tight. He also purchased a very poor DM when we needed better. You simply cannot now proportion all of the blame to something else based on blind allegiance to the manager. jesus! you could find a negative in........you know the rest. Every thread, every opportunity. Not surprised you think Sylla is a very poor DM, your ability to spot a player has been proven to be pants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 yeah the 3-5-2 was unfairly criticized, obviously it didnt work though we beat Liverpool BUT he needed that extra body to make up for inexperience. If Vlaar or even Dunne had of been fit we wouldnt have seen it. we had a back 4 of Lowton-Clark -Baker - Bennett and had about 50 premier league games between them at that stage Two of those players were purchased by Lambert when we needed more experience at the back while Dunne was injured and should have been replaced even with a loanee when finances were tight. He also purchased a very poor DM when we needed better. You simply cannot now proportion all of the blame to something else based on blind allegiance to the manager. What the **** are you on about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Sylla is no Charlie Adam in fairness and Benteke is no Berbatov 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Perhaps he means KEA? In which case I'd agree. He is a poor DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Perhaps he means KEA? In which case I'd agree. He is a poor DM. Well yeah that makes sense. But in the context of his comment, it definitely reads that he means Sylla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 9, 2013 Perhaps he means KEA? In which case I'd agree. He is a poor DM. Well yeah that makes sense. But in the context of his comment, it definitely reads that he means Sylla.I don't think his comment refers to Sylla because we didn't buy him until January. So a comment criticising Lambert's purchase of a poor DM in a 3-5-2 system would suggest it was El Ahmadi. We didn't even start using Sylla until some time after January and IIRC by the time Sylla became a mainstay, we had moved away from 3-5-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Sylla is no Charlie Adam in fairness and Benteke is no Berbatov Well what do you expect, Lambert signed them and he's no Harry Redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Indeed. He also mentions two other players purchased by the manager in the summer. Except I don't actually remember KEA being part of the team around then. Wasn't he injured? So the point is moot either way. His "DM" was either injured or not even at the club yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) KEA was our best player in the opening 2 games IIRC then went off the boil a bit. Or was he injured? I can't even remember. Edited August 9, 2013 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 9, 2013 There is no Dawkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Yeah I read 'loan player' as Dawkins and quickly edited it out so cheers for flagging that BOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted August 9, 2013 Mine was a God/Atheism/Dawkins joke. Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Ah, I get you now. It's been a long, long day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't think Lambert actually likes role midfielders, I think he prefers players who can operate in both defence and attack effectively. Ultimately this means he's got a midfield 3 who are ok at defending and ok at attacking and ultimately leaves the team lack in both departments. Remember Sylla had 2 assists last year! I think he values work rate in the middle of the park as the most important thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't think Lambert actually likes role midfielders, I think he prefers players who can operate in both defence and attack effectively. Ultimately this means he's got a midfield 3 who are ok at defending and ok at attacking and ultimately leaves the team lack in both departments. Remember Sylla had 2 assists last year! I think he values work rate in the middle of the park as the most important thing. Is 2 assists terrible for a player who's basically a ball winning midfielder that only played less than half the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't think Lambert actually likes role midfielders, I think he prefers players who can operate in both defence and attack effectively. Ultimately this means he's got a midfield 3 who are ok at defending and ok at attacking and ultimately leaves the team lack in both departments. Remember Sylla had 2 assists last year! I think he values work rate in the middle of the park as the most important thing. Is 2 assists terrible for a player who's basically a ball winning midfielder that only played less than half the season? I was trying to praise him, saying he's not merely a DM in the Claude Makelele mould, but can get forward as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I don't think Lambert actually likes role midfielders, I think he prefers players who can operate in both defence and attack effectively. Ultimately this means he's got a midfield 3 who are ok at defending and ok at attacking and ultimately leaves the team lack in both departments. Remember Sylla had 2 assists last year! I think he values work rate in the middle of the park as the most important thing. Ron Saunders was also a fan of work rate..me too. Messi is not exactly statue like. No substitute of hard graft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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