Manager Paul Lambert

[Big_John_10]

Points dropped from winning positions 18th

This one is an awful stat.

Shows a manager not capable of adapting as the game goes on.

[Big_John_10]

Can't believe so many are happy to lower expectations in order to defend him.

How does defending Paul Lambert equate to lowering expectations, happy or otherwise?

Some claim that staying up would be a remarkable achievement.

That's lowering expectations.

I clearly remember the attitude on here at the end of the summer transfer window and there weren't many predicting a relegation battle.

But in order to defend Lambert expectations have had to be lowered.

[Woodytom]

 

Can't believe so many are happy to lower expectations in order to defend him.

How does defending Paul Lambert equate to lowering expectations, happy or otherwise?

Some claim that staying up would be a remarkable achievement.

That's lowering expectations.

I clearly remember the attitude on here at the end of the summer transfer window and there weren't many predicting a relegation battle.

But in order to defend Lambert expectations have had to be lowered.

 

 

Expectations have been lowered because we (or I) have realised that the players are absolutely awful.

[Woodytom]

Tho I echo the opinion that a remarkable achievement (One bloke said he should be given the freedom of the city on talksport), would not be avoiding relegation. 

[brommy]

Can't believe so many are happy to lower expectations in order to defend him.

How does defending Paul Lambert equate to lowering expectations, happy or otherwise?

Some claim that staying up would be a remarkable achievement.

That's lowering expectations.

I clearly remember the attitude on here at the end of the summer transfer window and there weren't many predicting a relegation battle.

But in order to defend Lambert expectations have had to be lowered.

I hope we do well, but having seen us be relegated, threaten relegation, win cups and challenge for the titles, all in relatively close seasons, I don't 'expect' anything - since the best part of 20 years ago. Whether I choose to acknowledge how difficult the job was and how relative that is to the progress (or lack) of the team is nothing to do with lowering expectations. Stating such is incorrect.

[Zatman]

think main thing that cost us on Sunday was Henderson scored so early in 2nd half and we panicked. think players had of held on 5 or 10 minutes would have gave them a lot more confidence

[sne]

Not sure if this is the right thread but anyhow...

 

Team Average age (Number of games)

1. Liverpool 23.22 (31)
2. Arsenal 23.24 (30)
3. Southampton 23.71 (31)
4. Newcastle 24.51 (31)
5. Aston Villa 24.79 (31)
6. West Ham 25.12 (30)
7. Manchester City 25.17 (30)
8. Tottenham 25.17 (31)
9. Reading 25.29 (31)
10. Manchester United 25.34 (30)
11. Everton 25.41 (30)
12. Swansea 25.57 (31)
13. West Bromwich 25.73 (31)
14. Sunderland 25.77 (31)
15. Wigan 25.81 (30)
16. Norwich 26 (31)
17. Chelsea 26.03 (30)
18. Stoke 27.19 (31)
19. Fulham 27.52 (30)
20. Queens Park Rangers 28.00 (31)

 

Trivia stat but as you can see we are no longer the youngest team in the PL

 

Edit: The stats are from Opta Statistics

Edited April 3, 2013 by sne

[Tomaszk]

Not sure if this is the right thread but anyhow...

 

Team Average age (Number of games)

1. Liverpool 23,22 (31)

2. Arsenal 23,24 (30)

3. Southampton 23,71 (31)

4. Newcastle 24,51 (31)

5. Aston Villa 24,79 (31)

6. West Ham 25,12 (30)

7. Manchester City 25,17 (30)

8. Tottenham 25,17 (31)

9. Reading 25,29 (31)

10. Manchester United 25,34 (30)

11. Everton 25,41 (30)

12. Swansea 25,57 (31)

13. West Bromwich 25,73 (31)

14. Sunderland 25,77 (31)

15. Wigan 25,81 (30)

16. Norwich 26 (31)

17. Chelsea 26,03 (30)

18. Stoke 27,19 (31)

19. Fulham 27,52 (30)

20. Queens Park Rangers 28,00 (31)

 

Trivia stat but as you can see we are no longer the youngest team in the PL

 

Edit: The stats are from Opta Statistics

What's the second number in the column? 51 for Newcastle, 71 for Villa?

[sne]

Not sure if this is the right thread but anyhow...

 

Team Average age (Number of games)

1. Liverpool 23,22 (31)

2. Arsenal 23,24 (30)

3. Southampton 23,71 (31)

4. Newcastle 24,51 (31)

5. Aston Villa 24,79 (31)

....

 

What's the second number in the column? 51 for Newcastle, 71 for Villa?

It's 24.51 years. I guess that would translate to 24 years and 6 months

Edited April 3, 2013 by sne

[TRO]

What cost us on Sunday was what has cost us all season.... not picking players up.

Westwood and Bennet was at fault not picking Henderson up he had a clear route to goal.

The same kind of scenario's are repeating themselves time amd time again.its worrying to see no kind of improvemnt in certain aspects of our game.

We have a reasonable attack but have a very hit & miss approach to preserving a lead.

I'm not sure what the overall plan is to remedy this or in fact what is a resonable timescale to say its being dealt with or not.

[briny_ear]

obviously missed me maintaining my stance re lambert then. And the stats if you actually read the post were from the bbc

Yet you only pipe up after a loss.

Isn't it more that he quoted the stats once Robbie Savage had published them, which was on 31 March?     Quite hard to quote them before they were available.

Edited April 3, 2013 by briny_ear

[briny_ear]

What cost us on Sunday was what has cost us all season.... not picking players up.

Westwood and Bennet was at fault not picking Henderson up he had a clear route to goal.

The same kind of scenario's are repeating themselves time amd time again.its worrying to see no kind of improvemnt in certain aspects of our game.

We have a reasonable attack but have a very hit & miss approach to preserving a lead.

I'm not sure what the overall plan is to remedy this or in fact what is a resonable timescale to say its being dealt with or not.

The two goals we conceded on Sunday were both terrible - possibly amongst the worst this season. We don't seem to be getting any better defensively, sadly.

[TRO]

What cost us on Sunday was what has cost us all season.... not picking players up.

Westwood and Bennet was at fault not picking Henderson up he had a clear route to goal.

The same kind of scenario's are repeating themselves time amd time again.its worrying to see no kind of improvemnt in certain aspects of our game.

We have a reasonable attack but have a very hit & miss approach to preserving a lead.

I'm not sure what the overall plan is to remedy this or in fact what is a resonable timescale to say its being dealt with or not.

The two goals we conceded on Sunday were both terrible - possibly amongst the worst this season. We don't seem to be getting any better defensively, sadly.

Its a worry for me Briny, because I don't want to keep seeing the manager changing...I do take the view that continuity is ultimately a prudent approach, However, it is paramount that some kind of improvement patterns is in evidence...I guess we have stopped the set piece rot to an extent, so I guess I'll just have to be patient.

[Con]

Not sure if this is the right thread but anyhow...

 

Team Average age (Number of games)

1. Liverpool 23.22 (31)

2. Arsenal 23.24 (30)

3. Southampton 23.71 (31)

4. Newcastle 24.51 (31)

5. Aston Villa 24.79 (31)

6. West Ham 25.12 (30)

7. Manchester City 25.17 (30)

8. Tottenham 25.17 (31)

9. Reading 25.29 (31)

10. Manchester United 25.34 (30)

11. Everton 25.41 (30)

12. Swansea 25.57 (31)

13. West Bromwich 25.73 (31)

14. Sunderland 25.77 (31)

15. Wigan 25.81 (30)

16. Norwich 26 (31)

17. Chelsea 26.03 (30)

18. Stoke 27.19 (31)

19. Fulham 27.52 (30)

20. Queens Park Rangers 28.00 (31)

 

Trivia stat but as you can see we are no longer the youngest team in the PL

 

Edit: The stats are from Opta Statistics

 

 

That's nonsense from Opta.

 

That figure is not for teams, it's for squads. That's very different.

 

The teams Liverpool picks are very experienced.

 

 

This is the Liverpool team we played at the weekend 

 

 

• Reina 30
• Johnson 28
• Jose Enrique 27
• Agger 28
• Carragher 35
• Gerrard 32  ooked
• Phillippe Coutinho 20 
• Henderson 22
• Downing 28
• Lucas 26
• Suarez 26
•  

[Woodytom]

Not sure if this is the right thread but anyhow...

 

Team Average age (Number of games)

1. Liverpool 23.22 (31)

2. Arsenal 23.24 (30)

3. Southampton 23.71 (31)

4. Newcastle 24.51 (31)

5. Aston Villa 24.79 (31)

6. West Ham 25.12 (30)

7. Manchester City 25.17 (30)

8. Tottenham 25.17 (31)

9. Reading 25.29 (31)

10. Manchester United 25.34 (30)

11. Everton 25.41 (30)

12. Swansea 25.57 (31)

13. West Bromwich 25.73 (31)

14. Sunderland 25.77 (31)

15. Wigan 25.81 (30)

16. Norwich 26 (31)

17. Chelsea 26.03 (30)

18. Stoke 27.19 (31)

19. Fulham 27.52 (30)

20. Queens Park Rangers 28.00 (31)

 

Trivia stat but as you can see we are no longer the youngest team in the PL

 

Edit: The stats are from Opta Statistics

 

 

That's nonsense from Opta.

 

That figure is not for teams, it's for squads. That's very different.

 

The teams Liverpool picks are very experienced.

 

 

This is the Liverpool team we played at the weekend 

 

 

• Reina 30
• Johnson 28
• Jose Enrique 27
• Agger 28
• Carragher 35
• Gerrard 32  ooked
• Phillippe Coutinho 20 
• Henderson 22
• Downing 28
• Lucas 26
• Suarez 26
•  

 

 

Dont be daft CON, the numbers you have put next to each player indicates how many millions you think they are worth 

[Zatman]

that just provese stats doesnt tell everything as Liverpool have played an experienced team all season with Reina, Gerrard, Downing, Carragher, Suarez, Agger etc. regularly playing.

 

just Sterling playing brought the average down

[Con]

that just provese stats doesnt tell everything as Liverpool have played an experienced team all season with Reina, Gerrard, Downing, Carragher, Suarez, Agger etc. regularly playing.

 

just Sterling playing brought the average down

 

No!

 

Sterling wouldn't bring the average down far enough until the average of the rest of the 10 men was 24 years old.

 

The average of 10 Liverpool normal starters is usually 27. + Sterling that only goes down to 26.

 

Opta must be using figures for the squad not the starting XI.

 

Aston Villa have the youngest team in the Premier League.

[fightoffyour]

You would have to do something like multiply the age of each player by time on the pitch to get a true figure. I think it's fairly obvious we would come out the youngest then.

[sne]

Young (ish) players like Wisdom, Allen, Sterling, Henderson, Shelvey, Suso, Coutinho have all featured a lot for Liverpool while Carragher hardly played until the last few months and Downing pretty much didn't play until december.

But it doesn't matter as having the youngest squad isn't a goal to strive for, it's just an excuse to use when things go badly.

 

We don't really play any old experienced players but we also don't give any really young players a go which is a bit sad.

What is the total number of minutes in the PL this season given to any of our Next Gen winning players?

[Pelle]

We don't? Weimann, Sylla, Benteke and I bet Gardner would've got a fair chance if he'd been fit? Or are you talking about teenagers? Whilst it might be exciting to have a teenager in the team now and then, I'm glad they haven't got that many chances this year. They need more experienced players to carry them.