sne Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Wisconsin electors have been receiving death threats and are escorted by extra security and are casting their votes in a undisclosed location due to security concerns. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withnail Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, darrenm said: Assange to be pardoned by Trump How does this benefit Trump? Or am I missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Withnail said: How does this benefit Trump? Or am I missing something. It's giving 2 fingers to the state apparatus. E.g., many members of the previous administration talked about having Assange and Snowden murdered. One a journalist the other a political dissident. You lot in the UK have plenty to hang your heads in shame about over this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 15:02, TheAuthority said: They'd be absolutely broke if they seceded from the so called 'blue states.' https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700 Oil dear boy or do you power your car with a windmill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumerican Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, villakram said: You lot in the UK have plenty to hang your heads in shame about over this. Yup. Allowing America to happen was a bad move on reflection. At least we get to see how it ends. 5 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Yup. Allowing America to happen was a bad move on reflection. At least we get to see how it ends. This is what happens when you let interns write the final season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 14 hours ago, TheAuthority said: I'm confused (and admittedly I only skipped through it) but what is that video meant to convey? It seemed like an unhinged rambling YT video but I couldn't even get the thrust of what it was going for. That this is all staged and only TOTO (2020) went and looked behind the curtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Seat68 said: This is what happens when you let interns write the final season. Rian Johnson Total Landscaping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, villakram said: It's giving 2 fingers to the state apparatus. E.g., many members of the previous administration talked about having Assange and Snowden murdered. One a journalist the other a political dissident. You lot in the UK have plenty to hang your heads in shame about over this. You quite sure? Under the Obama administration, the Justice Department decided not to indict as it couldn't find any evidence that Assange had done anything different to a journalist. It was the Trump Administration in particular, Pompeo and Sessions that pushed the pursuit of Assange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Withnail said: How does this benefit Trump? Or am I missing something. Assange is the medium the Russians used to pass on intel on the Clintons. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, villakram said: many members of the previous administration talked about having Assange and Snowden murdered. I forget, was it this guy? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 There’s always a tweet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Assange is the medium the Russians used to pass on intel on the Clintons. That and Trump could actually be worried about what might come out in any trial. Anyway, I predict that Assange will suddenly not be as ill as he was yesterday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 The Trump ally who first made the claim tonight re Assange has now retracted it. Could have been a mix up or perhaps could have been testing the mood of the room? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Quote U.S. sanctions Turkey over purchase of Russian defense system The United States on Monday imposed sanctions on Turkey over its purchase of Russian ground-to-air defenses and targeted the top Turkish defense development body, its president and three employees. The move, while focused on the defense sector, including Turkey’s Defence Industries Directorate (SSB), has drawn a condemnation from NATO-ally Ankara and is likely to further strain Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan’s relations with Western allies. Ankara acquired the Russian S-400 ground-to-air defenses in mid-2019 and says they pose no threat to NATO allies. Washington disagrees and has long threatened sanctions, and last year removed Turkey from an F-35 jet program. The U.S. measures announced on Monday under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) would be enacted by U.S. President Donald Trump as President-elect Joe Biden prepares to take office on Jan. 20. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-sanctions/u-s-sanctions-turkey-over-purchase-of-russian-defense-system-idUSKBN28O2KV?il=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, bickster said: You quite sure? Under the Obama administration, the Justice Department decided not to indict as it couldn't find any evidence that Assange had done anything different to a journalist. It was the Trump Administration in particular, Pompeo and Sessions that pushed the pursuit of Assange. You are re-writing history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, sne said: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-sanctions/u-s-sanctions-turkey-over-purchase-of-russian-defense-system-idUSKBN28O2KV?il=0 Real policy. This is some of the meat and drink living in the NDAA pushed through congress with veto proof majorities. Kinda funny really, because if Trump did this on his own, he'd be accused of endangering NATO, whereas now the story will be how the Russians are being countered. Both points are true in a grown up discussion of things, but partizan politics is the order of the day. It also includes measures prohibiting any fed dollars being used to remove troops from Germany or Afghanistan. Yay, democracy. Edited December 14, 2020 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, villakram said: You are re-writing history. Best have a word with Assange's lawyer then, that's Assange's own defence in court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: Assange is the medium the Russians used to pass on intel on the Clintons. There is no evidence to support that claim and significant evidence showing the Clinton material was removed from that server via physical media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: Best have a word with Assange's lawyer then, that's Assange's own defence in court Legal arguments concern what happened. Not what would have happened had the UK jackboots not intervened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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