Davkaus Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) But if 8.1 was a reaction to customer feedback, how could Microsoft have released it first? The way that the OS was publicly shit on in every single preview when it was available to the public during the beta probably should have given them an idea that things needed to change before release. As it is, no matter what they do in future service packs, Windows 8 is always going to have a Vista-like aura surrounding it. Which is fitting, because unless they drastically rethink things over the next few years, Win8 will be the Vista to Win7's XP, and they can expect to still have their business customers on Win7 in a decade's time. Edited October 19, 2013 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 19, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Every other version of Windows, going back over 20 years, is crap, more or less.3.0 - crap3.1 - decent95 - crap95 osr2 - decent98 - crap98 second edition - decentme - crapxp - decentvista - crap7 - decent8 - crap8.1 - ????"decent" is meant as faint praise, by the way. Edited October 19, 2013 by leviramsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Windows 98!! ah memories, the Dial up was horrendous Edited October 19, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Every other version of Windows, going back over 20 years, is crap, more or less. 3.0 - crap 3.1 - decent 95 - crap 95 osr2 - decent 98 - crap 98 second edition - decent me - crap xp - decent vista - crap 7 - decent 8 - crap 8.1 - ???? "decent" is meant as faint praise, by the way. what about 1 and 2. Not sure i agree that 95 was crap. It was quite groundbreaking in that it was the first 32bit os. Anybody upgraded to 8.1. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I am surprised that from what little I have seen the Apps arent as fully functional as the Android equivalent. My wife bought the win8 laptop because she couldnt get on with the Android tablet. She went to list some items using the ebay app but no matter what she did the photo she was uploading appeared upside down, even when it was rotated on the PC to be up side down. She then wanted to delte some items from here watched list and neither of us could find out how to do it (obviously there might be a way but if its not easy then how are people supposed to use it) In the end she got out the Android tablet and did it on there. If in 8.1 you can default to boot to the desktop a la win 7 not the awful win 8 version then thats an improvement at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2013 Not sure i agree that 95 was crap. It was quite groundbreaking in that it was the first 32bit os. Anybody upgraded to 8.1. Any thoughts?Windows 95 wasn't the first 32-bit OS (VMS, Unix, et al say "hi").It wasn't even the first 32-bit OS for x86 (OS/2 and Linux say "hi").It wasn't even the first 32-bit Windows (Windows NT (and arguably Windows 3.x with the Win32s libraries) says "hi").It wasn't even really 32-bit (there was a whole lot of 16-bit DOS lurking under the hood). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Not sure i agree that 95 was crap. It was quite groundbreaking in that it was the first 32bit os. Anybody upgraded to 8.1. Any thoughts? Windows 95 wasn't the first 32-bit OS (VMS, Unix, et al say "hi"). It wasn't even the first 32-bit OS for x86 (OS/2 and Linux say "hi"). It wasn't even the first 32-bit Windows (Windows NT (and arguably Windows 3.x with the Win32s libraries) says "hi"). It wasn't even really 32-bit (there was a whole lot of 16-bit DOS lurking under the hood). Fair enough i did mean the first proper 32 bit windows excluding Nt. I just think crap or decent doesn't do the os's justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'm using 8.1 on a touchscreen pc. Seems intuitive tbh. Yes I can see why people struggle when moving from earlier OS but I'm happy with my experience of it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted April 11, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) It's coming back as an option. Customer whining does help it seems Edited April 12, 2014 by Tegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I kinda like the metro screen on start up but I would like the old start menu to use .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted April 12, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2014 I demand the return of Program Manager! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I really hate Win 8, biggest problem I have is that no browser seems to work on every website. When I'm working on laptop at home I have to have 3 browsers (Mozilla, IE and Chrome) because each of them doesn't load up certain sites properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 12, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 12, 2014 If that's a problem, stop using windows. Or am I being stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It was a birthday present so public face is that I really like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 12, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 12, 2014 That doesn't stop you replacing windows with something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 12, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 12, 2014 How so? Download linux onto a stick and the problem has gone away forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 For reasons other than IT ones which there is no point in getting in a debate about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 How so? Download linux onto a stick and the problem has gone away forever. I think my main sense of grievance with MS is that being that it enjoys such a disproportionate portion of the OS market, it doesn't treat its customers as well it might. The ending of support for XP might be a reasonable business decision, although charging for extended support would have been a lot of people's preferred option. But, withdrawing Win 7 from OEM sales to push their new product, which no one really wanted, seems to confirm MS's reputation as something less ethical than they pretend to be. While there is no viable alternative for most ordinary users, they are not likely to be taught to treat their customers better. Certainly Linux is not suitable for ordinary folk, and looks unlikely ever to be. Unfortunately, despite the serious doubts about the behaviour of MS, using Windows after the travails of Linux, feels remarkably user-friendly and reliable by comparison. Moving over to Linux is just swapping one set of problems for a hell of a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 14, 2014 Administrator Share Posted April 14, 2014 While there is no viable alternative for most ordinary users, they are not likely to be taught to treat their customers better. Certainly Linux is not suitable for ordinary folk, and looks unlikely ever to be. Unfortunately, despite the serious doubts about the behaviour of MS, using Windows after the travails of Linux, feels remarkably user-friendly and reliable by comparison. Moving over to Linux is just swapping one set of problems for a hell of a lot more. FUD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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