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[Seal]

3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

It's not the shadow of the flag. It's the shadow of something off frame to the left. We've covered this.

The point is where is the flags / flag poles shadow. We have covered this. 

[Stevo985]

The annoying thing is literally 5 minutes on google will debunk any of these myths. It's not difficult to do one tiny bit of research on any of them and realise they are false.

You're just believing what you want to believe.

[Seal]

2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Yet you don't recognise simple perspective that occurs on earth literally everywhere you look. Examples already posted, yet you're ignoring them completely.

When I place a flagpole in sunlight. It has a shadow in the opposite direction or a relative length to other shadows of similar heighted objects. 

[Stevo985]

3 minutes ago, Seal said:

The point is where is the flags / flag poles shadow. We have covered this. 

It's to the right of the flag, you just can't see it properly because the ground is very uneven. And the only part of the shadow visible in that picture would be the pole, which would be very thin

What's your explanation if you insist it isn't there? It's a magical flag that doesn't have a shadow?

Edited September 21, 2023 by Stevo985

[Seal]

1 minute ago, Stevo985 said:

It's to the right of the flag, you just can't see it properly because the ground is very uneven.

What's your explanation if you insist it isn't there? It's a magical flag that doesn't have a shadow?

It should be a lot lot lot longer bearing in mind the shadows from the module and the astronaut. I note that there is a very short stubbly thing. That it is so short is the issue.

[Seal]

3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

The annoying thing is literally 5 minutes on google will debunk any of these myths. It's not difficult to do one tiny bit of research on any of them and realise they are false.

You're just believing what you want to believe.

I disagree. I don't necessarily always think that a five minute google is enough to know what happened on the moon or in a studio decades ago.

[Mr_Dogg]

Everybody just slowly back away.

[MakemineVanilla]

The importance of conspiracy theories should never be under-estimated - where else could you hide actual conspiracies in plain sight?

[Designer1]

This thread is amazing, depressing and hilarious all at once.

[Stevo985]

6 minutes ago, Seal said:

It should be a lot lot lot longer bearing in mind the shadows from the module and the astronaut. I note that there is a very short stubbly thing. That it is so short is the issue.

Its' not short. It's incredibly long. That's the problem. The only shadow visible is the shadow of the pole which is very thin and so hard to pick out.

Here is a close up that shows the shadow of the pole (look at those overshoes by the way. Definitely not the boots shown in the spacesuit picture...)

 

 

And Look:

 

Here's your photo. Look at Buzz Aldrin's shadow. You can only see the legs of his shadow. The amount of his shadow you can see doesn't even reach his groin.

Here's the same moment from a different angle

 

Look at the shadow of the actual flag. It's in line with Buzz's torso, well above where the original photos frame stops, hence why you can't see it on the original photo you posted.

 

There's video of this moment too that shows it all happening

 

 

Again the annoying thing about this is a 30 second google search presents you with this information. It's not difficult

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Stevo985

[Mandy Lifeboats]

1 minute ago, Seal said:

 

What are your qualifications for talking about international relations by the way?

None. Although I once shagged a girl from Japan. 

But let me tell you my experience regarding the Cold War. I was part of the UK Civil Defence Team.  I spent days in bunkers training for a nuclear strike on the UK.  I took part in dozens of wargames that definitely DID end in nukes.  I know what the USSR tactics were likely to be. I know what the NATO response would be.  I have seen with my own eyes bunkers, strategic stores, bomb shelters, emergency supplies and hidden infrastructure of the UK.  

[chrisp65]

3 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

None. Although I once shagged a girl from Japan. 

But let me tell you my experience regarding the Cold War. I was part of the UK Civil Defence Team.  I spent days in bunkers training for a nuclear strike on the UK.  I took part in dozens of wargames that definitely DID end in nukes.  I know what the USSR tactics were likely to be. I know what the NATO response would be.  I have seen with my own eyes bunkers, strategic stores, bomb shelters, emergency supplies and hidden infrastructure of the UK.  

Yeah but did you ever build your own bomb with your own eyes and explode it?

You’ve been duped.

I’ve been 20 years out my garage trying to build a thermo nuclear device and I can tell you now, I’m no closer getting a big bang than I was when I started. Yet these governments, if they even exist, claim to have built loads of them in the same timespan. Well, I’ve proven that isn’t possible.

[Stevo985]

10 minutes ago, Seal said:

I disagree. I don't necessarily always think that a five minute google is enough to know what happened on the moon or in a studio decades ago.

I agree, but it's enough to present you with the counter argument to whatever myth you've posted, and most of the myths have very very simple explanations like the photos above. So 5 minutes on google is enough to find that

[Mandy Lifeboats]

2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Yeah but did you ever build your own bomb with your own eyes and explode it?

You’ve been duped.

I’ve been 20 years out my garage trying to build a thermo nuclear device and I can tell you now, I’m no closer getting a big bang than I was when I started. Yet these governments, if they even exist, claim to have built loads of them in the same timespan. Well, I’ve proven that isn’t possible.

Of course none of that could be true.  I could be a CIA officer who is specifically deployed to counter conspiracy theories on Villa Talk. 

I could have been a member of this forum for years in order to build a credible backstory. 

My real name might not be Mandy Lifeboats.  

[Wainy316]

48 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

But how would he know he was actually on the moon if we actually took him there?

It could be drug induced.

It could be Tredegar.

How does he even know he’s actually real? We might have faked him and he hasn’t realised yet. Some crazy hybrid of VT, The Truman Show and Bladerunner.

This has just reminded me of an old Channel 4 series where they tricked a bunch of people into believing they were being sent to space.

Circled them around in a plane for a few hours to make them think they'd flown to a training camp in Russia but in reality they were in some hangar in Suffolk.

Then they stuck some of them in some kind of simulator and they thought they'd actually been sent into low orbit.  I remember them in awe thinking they were looking at the earth through the window where it was really just an image on a screen.  Cruel.

[Chindie]

2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

This has just reminded me of an old Channel 4 series where they tricked a bunch of people into believing they were being sent to space.

Circled them around in a plane for a few hours to make them think they'd flown to a training camp in Russia but in reality they were in some hangar in Suffolk.

Then they stuck some of them in some kind of simulator and they thought they'd actually been sent into low orbit.  I remember them in awe thinking they were looking at the earth through the window where it was really just an image on a screen.  Cruel.

You're getting too close to the truth.

Keep your head on a swivel.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Chindie

[Xann]

Quote

The discovery of ancient wooden logs in the banks of a river in Zambia has changed archaeologists' understanding of ancient human life. 

Researchers found evidence the wood had been used to build a structure almost half a million years ago. 

The findings, published in the journal Nature, suggest stone-age people built what may have been shelters.

"This find has changed how I think about our early ancestors," archaeologist Prof Larry Barham said.

BBC

Conclusion: Jehovah had a shed on site before the start of the creation. That's maybe 494,000 years?

So then we're possibly looking at the 6 day completion process as an install only job? 

It's a much more realistic timescale for the construction of a celestial body.

The atheist worldview is on the ropes.

[Mandy Lifeboats]

20 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

None. Although I once shagged a girl from Japan. 

But let me tell you my experience regarding the Cold War. I was part of the UK Civil Defence Team.  I spent days in bunkers training for a nuclear strike on the UK.  I took part in dozens of wargames that definitely DID end in nukes.  I know what the USSR tactics were likely to be. I know what the NATO response would be.  I have seen with my own eyes bunkers, strategic stores, bomb shelters, emergency supplies and hidden infrastructure of the UK.  

I forgot.  

I danced on the Berlin Wall and I have a piece in my office.

[LondonLax]

There is a saying about not being so open minded that your brain falls out

[blandy]

53 minutes ago, Seal said:

With regards to your clarification of the lasers issues. Thanks it is interesting. However, I still find it hard to believe that it is happening. Lets say the photons are spread out over 4 miles, or 200 or 2 miles. I think I was the guy that mentioned four miles? That was just what I read on the wikipedia page. I found different samples. You may be sending up quadrillions of photons. But when they are spread out presumably 99.999999% of them will not hit the reflector. The odds of them getting back are so little anyway assuming they even hit the reflector. And then to be able to identify that that photon is the one you sent out, and distinguish from the huge amounts of photos that the moon would be reflecting anyway. Is a bit beyond what I think is possible.

You're welcome.

Here's a mind boggler for you. One million seconds in days is about 12 days. A billion seconds in days is 31.7 years.

one quintillion is a billion billion.

one quintillion seconds is 31.7 billion years.

a single high power laser pulse contains in the order of 500 quintillion photons

500 quintillion seconds is 15850 billion years.

So to get back to photons and seconds for a moment - every single pulse from the laser sends the equivalent of 15850 billion years worth of seconds in photons. That number is literally astronomical. And guess what, the laser sends pulses of 500 quintillion or so photons at a rate of maybe 20 pulses per second, or 1200 pulses per minute. So that's 600,000 quintillion photons per minute.

Suddenly a "100 billion to one chance" for a reflected photon being detected looks pretty good, when you're sending 600,000 billion billion photons up there every minute.

The numbers are almost beyond comprehension in scale. Humans don't tend to think in hundreds of thousands of billions - we might live 2 billion seconds out entire lives, there might be (I dunno the true number) 6 or 7 billion people on the planet....but what does 600,000 billion billion look like - it's beyond our minds to visualise.

And the thing is stuff like lasers and radar, and computing these types of numbers are commonplace - the chip in your computer might be operating at 3 or 4 billion Hz 3 or 4 billion cycles per second. Radar at 10 GHz - 10 billion cycles per second. Short range comms at Ka Band ( up to 40GHz).

So your "Is a bit beyond what I think is possible." is understandable as a layman, but really, it's not.