hogso Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Top 10, one trip to Wembley plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think we should improve massively just by changing manager / coaches etc Get rid of the rotten apples and 4 or 5 decent additions and we are top 10 Ready to kick on in 13/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Odd already people thought Mcleish was atrocious and all seem to think PL is good stuff, yet expectations are so low ? If so much of our position last year was down to Mcleish - as I think it was - and PL is so good - as I think he is - then as a minimum we must expect a marked improvement, that is only logical surely ? Or are we now agreeing with the pundits who said it wasn't Mcleishes fault !! Please no !!! In my view the gap between PL and Mcleish alone is worth 6 draws turned into wins, so we would be 12 points better off. In actual fact I see no reason why, with his superb motivational skills, tactical awareness, and positive approach, we can't do better than that. So I will say I expect we will get in the top half and with the necessary luck have a good Cup run. It wouldn't suprise me at all if we are in the pack chasing a Top 6 finish, although that may be tempered a little by what he buys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 tangible progression thats all I ask and see where that takes us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteEndRob Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Too early to say but at the moment I'd say that finishing around 10th would be steady progress and give us something good to build on. A decent cup run would be nice too but a solid improvement in the league is far more important. Obviously it all depends on what we do in the transfer market, which is why it's too early to answer this question properly. I shall revisit the thread with a more concrete answer once the transfer window has closed and we know for certain what players Lambert will be working with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Just to flesh it out a bit, my 'minimum 6 more wins' means we would win at least 13 games. As many as the Baggies did last year. We'd be up as a minimum around 50 Points. Are those who are saying we may not get top half saying PL will only manage 4 more wins than Mcleish ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It depends on the backing he gets and we do not want to make the job more difficult than it already will be by setting what would be unrealistic expectations before we know what that backing will turn out to be. I would like to see us trying to play some football and trying to win rather than draw games particularly at Villa Park. I also want to be outside of the bottom 6 at the end of the season anything more than that would be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It depends on the backing he gets and we do not want to make the job more difficult than it already will be by setting what would be unrealistic expectations before we know what that backing will turn out to be. I would like to see us trying to play some football and trying to win rather than draw games particularly at Villa Park. I also want to be outside of the bottom 6 at the end of the season anything more than that would be a bonus. Anything more than 44 points a bonus ? I find that an incredibly low estimation of what the new Manager is likey to acheive. It is one thing we don't want to overcook it but if Mcleish had stayed and said that he would have been run out of the Midlands !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoughboroughLion Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Hope - top 8 and FA Cup final Expectation - top 12 and playing positively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 No more 7 defenders at kick off :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Get into europa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Anything more than 44 points a bonus ? It may take more than 44 points next season terrytini and that along with playing decent football and going for wins would be a bonus after what we had last season. It is one thing we don't want to overcook it but if 'he who shall not be named' had stayed and said that he would have been run out of the Midlands !! Yes, but it is not him or the new manager that is saying it. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Perhaps, for Mr Lambert's benefit, someone could provide a list of the people variously described as "tossers", "clearings in the woods" and "rotten apples" who he is expected to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret_Squirrel Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 A team with a desire to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 League - 12th or higher Cups - Decent run, not expecting any final appearances General - Positive attitude, regardless of the opposition. Clear out the dead wood. More playing time for the promising youngsters. Attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 The league is a bit **** now as nobody wants Europa league So outside of top 4, positions 5-7 are taboo How on earth is UEFA managing the game well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Perhaps, for Mr Lambert's benefit, someone could provide a list of the people variously described as "tossers", "clearings in the woods" and "rotten apples" who he is expected to get rid of. Let's start with Stephen "own goal" Warnock & James "air traffic control" Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Anything more than 44 points a bonus ? It may take more than 44 points next season terrytini and that along with playing decent football and going for wins would be a bonus after what we had last season. It is one thing we don't want to overcook it but if 'he who shall not be named' had stayed and said that he would have been run out of the Midlands !! Yes, but it is not him or the new manager that is saying it. :winkold: In all the history of the Prem it has only required more than 44 Points once. I am all for not getting carried away, but surely you want/think he can do better than 6 points better than the last guy ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 but surely you want/think he can do better than 6 points better than the last guy ?? I think it is all about the backing that he gets terrytini. With the right backing he would be expected to do more than secure 14th and without it yes I think he would still be likely to do better than 14th. But what I am saying is 14th would be a minimum objective to aim for as things currently stand. I hope that clarifies how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 8-12th expected, 6-7th + cup run, hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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