andykeenan Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Euro 2012 draw Friday 2 December 4.45 BBC 2 Pot 1: Spain, Holland, Poland* and Ukraine*. Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England and Russia. Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal and Sweden. Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic and Republic of Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I look at that and see 15 teams more than capable of beating England on their day. We'll do well to get out of our group regardless of who we draw. (Forever the optimist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 not a clue how we are in pot 2, could go either way in terms of hard/easy group and then can just as eaily go either way in terms of how england do in that group i just want the group of debt jokes put to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongotastic Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 HARDEST GROUP Spain England Portugal France EASIEST GROUP Poland England Greece Denmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Poland, Italy and Sweden for the 2-2, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 as we have no expectation i dont care who we get. if we get Poland, England, Greece we could make the quarters. But would like a challenge and we always up it in big games so Ireland, Portugal, Germany and Spain could be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddybloke Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Personally i would like the hardest group possible, beat the best to be the best and it'll be way way more fun in the group stages if every game is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 England normally get a decent group, based on that we may end up with the worst possible outcome for a change! As Zatman says it's probably best for the Republic to get a tough draw as they'll raise their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Anyone have any experience of driving in either Poland or Ukraine? Whats it like in general? Looking at maybe camper vanning it next Summer if its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 tough groups for all the teams there - tis the advantage of the euros, rarely get a weak side in there, unless they're hosting and even then, im sure home support will make playing poland and ukraine a bit tougher. Anyway, would like spain england portugal and czech republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Poland, England, Sweden and Ireland please. Easy enough to get through, but also has the England Ireland game which could potentially have over a dozen Villa or ex-Villa players in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 How are portugal in a lower pot then england when portugal did better in world cup 2010 and euro 2008. Strange, I would like to know the criteria used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 How are portugal in a lower pot then england when portugal did better in world cup 2010 and euro 2008. Strange, I would like to know the criteria used. and 06, 04 and 00. its pretty ridiculous. Might be because they always go through the play-offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Aren't all the teams who had to qualify via the play offs in the lowest seeding group? Makes sense really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 no France and Denmark are in bottom pot and won their groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 England normally get a decent group, based on that we may end up with the worst possible outcome for a change! I actually think we always get the horrible groups, aside from WC2010. Euro2000, WC2002 and Euro2004 were just awful. Then in 2006 we still ended up with one of the better 2nd pot teams and better 3rd pot teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 groups are always more tighter in Euros than a World Cup though could be different this time with 2 weak teams in Pot 1. Look at 04 tournament for example and was 4 really tough groups and Spain, Germany and Italy all missed knockouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andykeenan Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Draw 5pm BBC 2 Sky Sports News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If Ireland are in a group with any 2 or more of Germany, Spain, Netherlands, Russia or Portugal then I think we'll struggle big time to get out of the group. If we're in a group with just one of the above then I think we can grind out a glorious QF qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cillit_Bouma Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 we always seem to get easyish groups; then underestimate the teams that we're playing; struggle to get through and get knocked out before the semi's. I'll actually relish having a tough group, maybe we'll start the tournament off how we should end it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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