Bazdavies79 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 At this present time success would be keeping us up. Are these players good enough for this task? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed??They're underperforming. A new manager might change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed??They're underperforming. A new manager might change that. yeah but he might not! The only way to guarantee it is through the players themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed??They're underperforming. A new manager might change that. yeah but he might not! The only way to guarantee it is through the players themselvesUnless the problem is actually the manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed?? They're underperforming. A new manager might change that. yeah but he might not! The only way to guarantee it is through the players themselves Unless the problem is actually the manager... Never had a problem with your boss? Work Colleagues?? - Ive never NOT tbh. Always looked to do my best no matter what - until i found Villa talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed?? They're underperforming. A new manager might change that. yeah but he might not! The only way to guarantee it is through the players themselves Unless the problem is actually the manager... Never had a problem with your boss? Work Colleagues?? - Ive never NOT tbh. Always looked to do my best no matter what - until i found Villa talk. ha ha, well I've worked with some rubbish ones. I'm not defending Dumb and Collins or any other player not giving 100%. But ultimately Houllier's overall performance has fallen way short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Or he might get them performing. Thinking of standard of football that is sustainable and can result in consistent success - have they ever really performed?? They're underperforming. A new manager might change that. yeah but he might not! The only way to guarantee it is through the players themselves Unless the problem is actually the manager... Never had a problem with your boss? Work Colleagues?? - Ive never NOT tbh. Always looked to do my best no matter what - until i found Villa talk. ha ha, well I've worked with some rubbish ones. I'm not defending Dumb and Collins or any other player not giving 100%. But ultimately Houllier's overall performance has fallen way short. Absolutely, but hes not the only one!! And if were prepared to cut some slack off the players in order to try and give them a better chance, then maybe we should do the same for Houllier??? - (not aimed at you by any means) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 There is one name i can think off. Its unlikely that we can get him, but... - he's an amazing manager - he wants to return to manage in England again - he doesn't want to manage Liverpool - i don't think he'd like to be always compared to Ferguson at Man Utd - he wouldn't go to Chelsea - Arsenal will stick with Arsene forever - He has mentioned he'd like to manage a club like Spurs, Everton, etc. i believe we are on a par with those clubs (present situation excepting). - he changes clubs a lot, i think he'd like to create a legacy at the next club he manages. - he has a large ego, and so coming to a club where if he won a few trophies, we would worship him forever and build statues/name stands after him. - Real Madrid change managers frequently. The man is MOURINHO. Randy, go get this man this summer, pay him £6mill/year. it'll be the best 6mill you'll ever spend. i know, i know, he's way out of our league.... yet for the reasons stated above, i think he might just fancy the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Sorry he's already drunk in last chance saloon for me, I think he should go. If he can't motivate his players, can't get his tactics working, the writing should be on the wall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I suggest you seek help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Leadership comes from the top though. If overall performance wasn't dependant on managers -if football players (or indeed anyone in regular work) were autonomous to the point whereby managers were close to irrelevant, the concept would have been done away with a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Sorry he's already drunk in last chance saloon for me, I think he should go. If he can't motivate his players, can't get his tactics working, the writing should be on the wall... Hang on a minute Are you willing to carry on supporting players who seem to pick and choose when they can be arsed? But yet you seem to want to shoot the manger down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 There isn't even a remote chance that Mourinho will ever come here. He's currently managing one of the biggest clubs in the world and the only job he'll take in England is Man Utd or Chelsea if Abramovich ever leaves. When has he ever mentioned that he would like to manage a club like Spurs or Everton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Sorry he's already drunk in last chance saloon for me, I think he should go. If he can't motivate his players, can't get his tactics working, the writing should be on the wall... Hang on a minute Are you willing to carry on supporting players who seem to pick and choose when they can be arsed? But yet you seem to want to shoot the manger down?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSufferingVilla Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 More of a chance having Muammar Gaddafi as our next manager than Mourinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Leadership comes from the top though. If overall performance wasn't dependant on managers -if football players (or indeed anyone in regular work) were autonomous to the point whereby managers were close to irrelevant, the concept would have been done away with a long time ago. I dont disagree. ive said many a time, i think hes doing an abysmal job. But no worser job than the players. Lets just for a minute take the defending from set pieces issue. Should Houllier have a plan of action - it certainly wouldnt hurt. Does he? By the sounds of it - no!! Bad management. Now, are you going to tell me that the players need that in order to defend them??? Theyre not 12. Its basic. Mark your man or zone, and stop the ball going in the net at all costs. Done!! What more do they need to know. IF HOULLIERS not doing it, someone take **** responsibility. Its not rocket science, and your certainly paid enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Sorry he's already drunk in last chance saloon for me, I think he should go. If he can't motivate his players, can't get his tactics working, the writing should be on the wall... Hang on a minute Are you willing to carry on supporting players who seem to pick and choose when they can be arsed? But yet you seem to want to shoot the manger down?Yes. I dont understand that logic then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 More of a chance having Muammar Gaddafi as our next manager than Mourinho. Well, he's more coherent than Gordon Strachan. But seriously, do people talking about Mourinho actually live on planet earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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