Dante_Lockhart Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 One thing about Mark hughes - hes never done a bad job!! He has never done a good job either. A draw specialist. :yawn: Funnily enough that's how I feel about your posts lately. :yawn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoD Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 If we get Hughes most of the people complaining about his style or scouting will be pleasantly surprised. Hughes teams go out with a great attitude and always look motivated and he has made some good cheap and expensive buys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 The prospect of Mark Hughes managing Villa is about as exciting as the prospect of Anne Widdecombe doing a Playboy shoot. None the less, should he be appointed I'll support him and give him a proper chance, which is more than many on here have ever done for Houllier. that about sums it up for me too. unfortunately since randy took over we have had several chances to break into the top 4 but for what ever reason, we sign MON and have monmey to spend which ghot us all buzzing and looked great, only wet spam and us were cash rich at the time everyone else had no money, we were in the perfect place and time to buy up great players, offer decent wages and really steal a march on all around us ... but wait... we dont, we buy a couple up and coming players who look good and then turn good, a couple..young and previous player of the season who we tried to sign under DOL and who DOL insisted we get when we sold nobby solano back to newcastle milner we then have a lot of average players being paid farmore than they could dream of and we then get MON refusing to buy top quality players at the peak of their careers and spunking money on average players hoping to make them awesome in some sort of homage to brian clough until he gets downing too little too late, or houliier being picked after we got shafted by MON and then 2/3 of the players either becoming grade 1 arse holes or getting injured. now it is a whole summer where we could line up a top quality manager, get them in early, get in their assistants, let them have a feel for the club and to meet all the players so they can try and influence the good ones we are worth staying with and can **** off the others. so they can get who they want early in the window and have the pick of free transfers if they have the pull to get them. so they can freshen up the place and bring a summer of positivity and energy to the club, re-envigoring it. put villa back on the footballing map and have us talked about in a positive manner again in the national media, have us being taken seriously again or sign a so so manager and nothing changes. it seems likely someone such as hughes will be apointed and if so i hope he does great, the stats and his history as a manager shows differently. my worry is yet another opportunity has been thrown away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I couldn't be bothered to trawl through all the recent pages of this thread so please forgive me if someone as already mentioned this. As anyone yet mentioned the fact that Hughes is supposed to have some kind of release clause in his contract this month only and that Villa might be looking at the cheaper option? This isn't my opinion btw but I am sure there are a few pessimist's on here that would argue that case! I don't know if Hughes would have been my choice tbh. I don't think he has set the world alight but let's face it, he hasn't failed as he? He did a relatively good job at Blackburn with very little resources and a squad that was nowhere near as good as the one he would take over at Villa. He made a decent signing or two as well, especially the Santa Cruz deal. Hughes seemed to be doing ok at Man City too and was only sacked after losing only two games that season, although they had only won something like two of their last eleven games before they sacked him. He has done quite well at Fulham as well without having too much money to spend so maybe Villa is the perfect club for him? Not too big (Man City based on their vast amount of money and Arab owners) and not too small, based on the fact that Blackburn and Fulham both have different agendas/resources to that of the Villa. I certainly wouldn't have said his name ahead of some others but if Villa did choose Hughes I would certainly give him and his staff my fullest backing. He has vast experience with being a player at Chelsea and Man Utd and therefore knows what makes the big clubs tick. Hopefully we would be the right size club to get the best out of him. Good post for me which i agree with ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 If the new manager ends up being Hughes I won't be enamoured with the decision but won't be throwing my teddies out either. Naturally i'll back whoever is in charge as they'd be the Villa manager... If Hughes does sign up, I hope he can reinstall some passion and fight into the club and our performances!!! And if it does turn out to be Hughes, I wonder what'll happen with the likes of Dunne and Ireland??? Both Sparky favourites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 And if it does turn out to be Hughes, I wonder what'll happen with the likes of Dunne and Ireland??? Both Sparky favourites! be interesting to see if Ireland could find his way back but as for Dunne- it was Hughes that sold Dunne. Hardly a Sparky favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 One thing about Mark hughes - hes never done a bad job!! He has never done a good job either. A draw specialist. :yawn: First year with Blackburn he took them to 6th place and the League Cup final - at a time when they had little or no money to spend. In 18 months at Man City, he took them to the fifth (at the time he was ousted), having formed the core of the team that qualified for the Champions League a year later and won the FA Cup. Took Fulham to 8th with a limited playing squad, little money to spend, no pre-season (notice how he never used that as an excuse throughout last season?) and a goal difference of +6 with arguably his two best attacking players missing for a large portion of the season. And he's never done a good job? Opinions are one thing - ignoring the facts are another. Blackburn - He didn't win Blackburn the cup. Got worse in the club as time went on. Man City - We were above his team when we he left and he was on a much higher budget. Fulham - The same Fulham who got to the Europa League final the season before? It may come to shock, but they've got a solid group of players. Opinions are opinions like I've just proved. He's done an overall average job. Nothing too shocking, but nothing too spectacular either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Ancelotti had nothing to do with the signing of Torres. How does anyone outside of Chelsea actually know this? Also, if you were the manager and your boss said he was going to spend £50m of the transfer kitty on a player you thought not actually up to it, wouldn't you say so? I am sure that he could have gotten Suarez and Bent if he really wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Oh, and I find it laughable that people are giving Hughes credit that Man City won the FA Cup. That's funny because I don't recall him signing Yaya Toure, the most important player that has held City together and scored the winning goals in the semis/finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hughes would be a safe but very boring appointment, i wouldnt be delighted or furious at this appointment if it were to happen but id expect to just be a average premierleaue team finishing between 10th and 7th. Wouldnt expect many top class players wanting to be part of that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hughes would be a safe but very boring appointment, i wouldnt be delighted or furious at this appointment if it were to happen but id expect to just be a average premierleaue team finishing between 10th and 7th. Wouldnt expect many top class players wanting to be part of that really. But we are an average premier league team who finish between 7th and 10th. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siminjo Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 i just have one question: is e=mc2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Ancelotti had nothing to do with the signing of Torres. How does anyone outside of Chelsea actually know this? Also, if you were the manager and your boss said he was going to spend £50m of the transfer kitty on a player you thought not actually up to it, wouldn't you say so? I am sure that he could have gotten Suarez and Bent if he really wanted to. When something is that obvious, no-one even bothers denying it. The media and everyone all took it as fact, and no-one at Chelsea even moved to dispel it. The player was bought for Ancelotti, he didn't want him (or wasn't his first choice) but it was done as a show of strength against Liverpool and everyone else at a time Man City were flashing the chequebook - 'we can buy any player we want'. The fact that Ancelotti didn't play him and only brought him on when he really had to, or had already won, shows that he knew Torres wasn't the answer or even a decent fit in the team. Abramovich scuppered this season for Chelsea, as he does most seasons by interfering with his plaything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaknchips Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 He has vast experience with being a player at Chelsea and Man Utd and therefore knows what makes the big clubs tick. Hopefully we would be the right size club to get the best out of him. Football has changed massively since those days. And like most British coaches, they have stayed in the past/or still trying to get to grips with a new modern continental system..A system which has been around for years in France and Spain.. And these clubs can still remain competetive when they have sold their 1st team stars to the rich Premierleague clubs. Purely because the systems they have, already run deep through into the acadamy.. Until we install such a system at Villa we will NEVER rule Europe again. We can appoint Hughes, Moyes and co' yet all we are doing is wasting time..Because all these managers need the funds to find the players that already know the system to move the clubs forward.. Instead of bringing in the source, we are bringing in the products from the source.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 1, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2011 Man City - We were above his team when we he left and he was on a much higher budget. When he was sacked, he was on exactly the same amount of points as Mancini was at the same stage this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hughes would be a safe but very boring appointment, i wouldnt be delighted or furious at this appointment if it were to happen but id expect to just be a average premierleaue team finishing between 10th and 7th. Wouldnt expect many top class players wanting to be part of that really. But we are an average premier league team who finish between 7th and 10th. :| Its not about where we finished htis year though is it? Its about the ambition and where we want to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNichollsToe Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hughes would be a safe but very boring appointment, i wouldnt be delighted or furious at this appointment if it were to happen but id expect to just be a average premierleaue team finishing between 10th and 7th. Wouldnt expect many top class players wanting to be part of that really. Ashley and Downing would certainly agree with the last part :winkold: I Hughes could be quite succesful with us, if given the time, and heres the clincher, the funds to build his own dynasty. Thats the ype of manager he is. Luckily, i cant see him coming to a club that has no other ambition of finishing between 10th and 7th. I think he feels he has a lot to prove to some certain people a short distance up the M6! Having said that, Sparky was a winner as a player, and he will want to be a winner as a manager, its in the guys make-up. If he comes, back him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hughes would be a safe but very boring appointment, i wouldnt be delighted or furious at this appointment if it were to happen but id expect to just be a average premierleaue team finishing between 10th and 7th. Wouldnt expect many top class players wanting to be part of that really. But we are an average premier league team who finish between 7th and 10th. :| So why do people cry that our best players leave every season? It's basically simple. No drive or motivation and yes more money. The board are basically highlighting us a club that the sole reason we exist now is to polish all the rough edges of players and then feed them to a higher club. That's the way it is now it seems, which is pretty ridiculous when in 2010 we were challenging for top 4. Total nose dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancini_ Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I hope he won't take Sidwell back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 i just have one question: is e=mc2? No... e=mc^2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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