villaglint Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have seen Jack play a lot over the years and I think burning out is definitely an issue to think about. As it is with an kid of his age, very few come in and just play every game, most dip in and out first year or two. Only exceptions I can think of are genetic freaks like Rooney and Shaw who were "men" ahead of their age. Jack believe it or not can be pretty anonymous in some games when the defender gets his measure and his lack of strength exposes itself. I have seen him have the odd game in youth football where he barely got a kick. Right now he is match fit, confident and loving life. Without doubt he is ready to start games and I think in the not too distant he will. However it wouldn't surprise me to see him have five great games and then start to drop his levels for a few games. Same thing happened to Sterling in his first year and look at him now. I think Lambert has it just about right at the moment, he knows he has a talent on his hands which he acquired for nowt. He is trying to manage Jack to give him every chance to learn the league whilst also building the fitness and strength levels required for this level of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David-Copenhagen Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Sign him up please..................!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CVByrne Posted September 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2014 I think he shouldn't be starting games yet. He is such a great asset to have on the bench, he can go into a match against some tired opponents and do damage. Especially as we pose a danger from set pieces and even more so when Benteke is back. I think when we are a goal up in a match or drawing away from home we can switch to a holding midfield 3 of Sanchez, Delph & Westwood and have a front 3 of Grealish, Gabby and Benteke. We can soak up pressure and then hurt teams on the break. Grealish can become a starter in the second half of the season when we're hopefully well clear of relegation danger and the team can express themselves instead of being under pressure. It's the time when he can really shine, experience of a season, fresh legs vs tired weaker teams. Don't rush him 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Germany U21 vs Republic of Ireland U21 is live on British Eurosport 2 tomorrow at 5pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Get involved lads 5pm Jack on the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Best player on the pitch. They like hacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw95 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) **** me that bit of play was good! EDIT: I'm full of shit. Edited September 5, 2014 by adw95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pembers Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Commentator just said something along the lines of, "the game is very dull until the ball goes to Grealish". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2014 Jack's virtually playing on his own. I think he's the only player (Irish) that comes from a prem side, there's a couple of reading players and a blackburn I think. It does sort of show so far (although I know good players can play for lower teams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Our U21's really are awful, Grealish aside of course, senior isn't much better I suppose, I wonder if Jack will stick with us or go and play for England, the rumour is he turned down a senior call up as he needed time to think about it which is fully understandable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcwills10 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 why haven't we given him a deal yet we're asking for him to be poached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Our U21's really are awful, Grealish aside of course, senior isn't much better I suppose, I wonder if Jack will stick with us or go and play for England, the rumour is he turned down a senior call up as he needed time to think about it which is fully understandable... Both his parents are Irish. Don't make no sense to me. He's 100% Irish blood. Just because he grew up in England doesn't change anything imo. But his choice, I imagine the problem is Ireland are utterly useless and nobody even bothers watching anymore. England are pretty terrible too so he could easily be a full international and get a to play in world cups. It just won't sit right if he represents Ireland all the way to U21 level then plays for England. Any person who can change nationality to suit themselves doesn't sit right at all. Edited September 5, 2014 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Our U21's really are awful, Grealish aside of course, senior isn't much better I suppose, I wonder if Jack will stick with us or go and play for England, the rumour is he turned down a senior call up as he needed time to think about it which is fully understandable... Both his parents are Irish. Don't make no sense to me. He's 100% Irish blood. Just because he grew up in England doesn't change anything imo. But his choice, I imagine the problem is Ireland are utterly useless and nobody even bothers watching anymore. England are pretty terrible too so he could easily be a full international and get a to play in world cups. It just won't sit right if he represents Ireland all the way to U21 level then plays for England. Any person who can change nationality to suit themselves doesn't sit right at all. But he is a brummy himself and I am sure he feels English, it's a hard one to debate really the dual nationality, whatever he decides to do I fully respect and accept his decision, I just feel if he felt 100% irish he would have taken the call up to the senior side! the thing to remember here is Keano sees him every day and knows he is a special talent and wants to try and get him on board but at the same time he shouldn't be forced. If Jack wants to play for ireland then he should say so and then let that be that, I just hope it doesn't rumble on for too long. In my opinion he would wall straight into the national set up and that's not being biased(well maybe a little) but I think this lad is good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Jack is playing for Ireland right now. If he does change who he plays for at senior level it just won't sit right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw95 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) He should pick Ireland because the England national team is too focused on results in the short term, there would be no chance to just play and grow as a team because no faith is shown by the fans. Andros Townsend is a good example, was held up as the best player England have a few months back, one injury and he's been forgotten. Too quick to build players up. Edited September 5, 2014 by adw95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Jack is playing for Ireland right now. If he does change who he plays for at senior level it just won't sit right. You English yourself if you don't mind me asking? England regularly qualify for world cups and euros, ireland rarely do, that could be a huge influencing factor in his decision. Don't get me wrong I want jack to stay with ireland as I am irish and we badly need some new talent, I just feel he will decide to play for England. Edited September 5, 2014 by Dirtysanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) What the hell is 'Irish blood'? His home is Birmingham, which is in England. Same as me. My dad was a Dubliner, but I've never felt ' 50% Irish'. Edited September 5, 2014 by mjmooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 What the hell is 'Irish blood'? His home is Birmingham, which is in England. Same as me. My dad was a Dubliner, but I've never felt ' 50% Irish'. That's fair enough, each to their own and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityRoadSteps Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 He might go down the road of thinking he will probably get into the Irish team and actually play international football a lot easier than for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I really hope he chooses England as he deserves to be playing with better players than this, he must be so frustrated. Ireland's team at present is pretty poor and there doesn't seem to be anyone decent coming through. Of course it's up to him but I think he deserves better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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