Next leader of the Labour Party should be.....

[rjw63]

No idea who any of em are, and I don't care!

[tonyh29]

Think they are in for a long period of opposition so doesn't really matter who wins this time around ... best thing this current mob can do is wheel their wife out at a few meetings and secure her a book deal

maybe 2 - 3 leaders down track they might get electable again once they decided what party they actually want to be ..

[Demitri_C]

i want diane abbott to win!

[Awol]

i want diane abbott to win!

She's in the race because banana boy told his backers to nominate her.

Unsurprisingly she doesn't seem concerned that she has only been put on the ballot paper for reasons of political correctness, not competence or the confidence of her peers - pathetic really.

I agree with you though Dem and hope that she wins.

[Richard]

I would also like to see Diane win.

[Jon]

I would also like to see Diane win.

I bet you would! :winkold:

[Richard]

At least she has principles. They may change but she still has them!

[Risso]

Just don't mention private education.

[tonyh29]

Read a few excerpts from Mandy's book on the train back from Plymouth today

New Brown was barking , just never knew how much .. was quite sad really reading about him trying desperately to cling to power

Don't know if there will be much fallout over this book but it hasn't painted Clegg in a good light either

[Demitri_C]

this was the alternative to what we got now, dont know about you but i dont want a bunch of quarelling babies running the country thanks

Mandy’s F-bomb

By TOM NEWTON DUNN

BITCHY Lord Mandelson stuck the knife into Labour comrades - last night telling how the party's poll hopes were dismissed as "futile", "finished", "f*****".

He and senior Labour MPs were responding to then deputy leader Harriet Harman's hopes of basing a campaign around her own three Fs - future, family and fairness.

Lord Mandelson reveals the barb in the latest instalment of his memoirs serialised in The Times today. He also tells how Gordon Brown had a long-running feud with the then Chancellor, Alistair Darling.

And he claims most senior Labour MPs believed that Mr Brown could not lead the party to victory.

Former Business Secretary Mr Mandelson describes the mood of fatalism among the Cabinet ministers as polling day approached. Mr Darling called the campaign "f*****", MP Douglas Alexander called it "futile" and Mr Mandelson described it as "finished". Even Mr Brown came to accept that voters did not want "five more years of him".

Yesterday Labour leadership hopeful Ed Balls blasted Mr Darling, saying his plan to halve the budget deficit in four years had been "a mistake" - despite backing the idea before the poll.

Miserable Flops

[drat01]

Sorry Dem but that is the funniest ever

If you think that outside of the Cameron / Osborne / Clegg love triangle its all sweetness and hugs you are very wrong. The Sun are not exactly known for their political comment and the bias in that "article" shines through like a ConDem beacon.

There will always be disagreement between politicians of all parties - after all nearly 99.99% of them are in politics to gain office and boos their own ego's

[Awol]

Yesterday Labour leadership hopeful Ed Balls blasted Mr Darling, saying his plan to halve the budget deficit in four years had been "a mistake" - despite backing the idea before the poll.

And Ed Balls said Labour's immigraton policy had been a mistake, David Milliband admitted Iraq was a mistake, etc etc. Basically they are all now saying the policies that they supported and implemented were wrong, but cheered them to the rafters in the GE campaign a few short months ago.

Full of shit, all of them.

[kidlewis]

Yesterday Labour leadership hopeful Ed Balls blasted Mr Darling, saying his plan to halve the budget deficit in four years had been "a mistake" - despite backing the idea before the poll.

And Ed Balls said Labour's immigraton policy had been a mistake, David Milliband admitted Iraq was a mistake, etc etc. Basically they are all now saying the policies that they supported and implemented were wrong, but cheered them to the rafters in the GE campaign a few short months ago.

Full of shit, all of them.

Ed Balls told Humphries that Brown and Blair got on fine.

I supposed Balls thinks that the Germans got on fine with the Russians in Stalingrad.

[drat01]

so the Tory supporters are now damning the Labour MP's based on them disagreeing with each other.

Meanwhile the ConDem's are threatening their own members to ensure that they don't vote against the Gvmt in parliament, but this in some way is acceptable?

I suppose the H word is again something that only applies to one party

[Demitri_C]

If you think that outside of the Cameron / Osborne / Clegg love triangle its all sweetness and hugs you are very wrong. The Sun are not exactly known for their political comment and the bias in that "article" shines through like a ConDem beacon

yeah but the clegg and cam partenrship is two difefrent parties this is labour going at each other!!

[kidlewis]

so the Tory supporters are now damning the Labour MP's based on them disagreeing with each other.

Meanwhile the ConDem's are threatening their own members to ensure that they don't vote against the Gvmt in parliament, but this in some way is acceptable?

I suppose the H word is again something that only applies to one party

not really...

[drat01]

Oh Dem for goodness sake - do you honestly believe that all members of the ConDem's or their own little bits of that are not against each other? If so why do we hear about threats from the ConDem leadership to make the MP's "toe the party line"?

It all goes back to the thing about if they were independents then there maybe more honesty and transparency - as it is no chance

[Awol]

so the Tory supporters are now damning the Labour MP's based on them disagreeing with each other.

No, based on them implementing policies for over a decade, then saying how great those policies were at the election and now admitting they were a bag of shite in an attempt to put distance between themselves and the decisions that they made!

Thought that was pretty clear.

Meanwhile the ConDem's are threatening their own members to ensure that they don't vote against the Gvmt in parliament, but this in some way is acceptable?

Acceptable no, but it happens with every party once in government. If it didn't there would be no such thing as the Whip's office. If Labour want to be first to allow free votes to all of their elected MP's while in office then I'd applaud them from the rooftops.

Do you think that might happen?

[Demitri_C]

so you think its acceptable for mandy to come out in public and say he disliked him and that they gave up before the election reuslt actually came in? sounds like a faltering party that needs a whole complete revamp

and thsi was reported in the times before the sun

[kidlewis]

Oh Dem for goodness sake - do you honestly believe that all members of the ConDem's or their own little bits of that are not against each other? If so why do we hear about threats from the ConDem leadership to make the MP's "toe the party line"?

It all goes back to the thing about if they were independents then there maybe more honesty and transparency - as it is no chance

no there will no doubt be massive infighting between two parties that are having to make compromises. There's probably been a fair bit of swearing and back stabbing going on which left some of them seething.

but Labour in power didn't actually need to be doing that? surely a single party with a massive majority should have been a much happier place than the last few years they had in power?

I think the divide that Blair took the party down, mixed in with the big differences between him and Brown and their respective followers led to their last few years in power being a pretty nasty place to be.