snowychap Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I don't know the story well enough to vote in the poll, but (as I can't be bothered going through all the pages) how on earth did the death penalty come into the debate? We are talking about a child murdering another child, aren't we? Did anyone suggest the state should execute a child? I'm not sure about this thread specifically but it has been suggested on VT, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I don't know the story well enough to vote in the poll, but (as I can't be bothered going through all the pages) how on earth did the death penalty come into the debate? We are talking about a child murdering another child, aren't we? Did anyone suggest the state should execute a child? I'm not sure about this thread specifically but it has been suggested on VT, yes. Blimey. That is so tenth century :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 22, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2011 IIRC this thread does have some genuine suggestions of hanging children, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I'm almost tempted to flip through all 40 pages just to see the rationale behind that particular position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Go on then, you been absent long enough ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Haha, I guess I have some catching up to do for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You sure do. VT has been taken over by spotty 18 year old pooves. According to a "certain moderator" ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You mean this site wasn't always full of "18 year old pooves"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You sure do. VT has been taken over by spotty 18 year old pooves. According to a "certain moderator" ;-) Nonesense! Understudy is 19. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I'm 19. (P.S. You misspelt nonsense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 And actually my spots aren't too bad at the minute, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Didnt venables get done for nonce sense? wish they could invent a machine to swap terminal illnesses between people like him and people who don't deserve it. And before anyone asks people who don't deserve it don't murder kids or bum them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 This little twerp from Robocop 2 finally getting his comeuppance, convinced me that sometimes, kids do deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggaman Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I'm sure I must have posted in here before, being that I feel so strongly on this. I really don't think that their age was an excuse and I believe that they knew full and well what they were doing. They should have been left to rot in a cell for what they have done. Instead they get given new lives and continue to be the scum of the earth. What a messed up society we live in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIW Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 There's a wealth of difference between knowing what they were doing and being aware, or responsible, for the consequences of what they did. Children know the difference between right and wrong but can't always follow the right decision because they are children. They are immature and they haven't developed a foresight that allows them to be responsible. Obviously what they did was wicked and the horror of what they did is still raw to this day. But they were treated as children and given the chance to be rehabilitated and try and make lives for themselves. Yes, I know that that was something they didn't allow poor Jamie Bulger but blood lust and mob type revenge won't change that. I think they were dealt with correctly and it is quite ironic that the previous poster calls children scum (however dislikable they may be) and talks about our messed up society. maybe we should look at Venable's and (the other one)'s parents and point the finger at them. Children are just a reflection of their upbringing at that age. If they were from a stable, loving background I'm not convinced they would be walking around a shopping centre unaccompanied whilst deciding to hurt and kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I'd have happily shot them both. No worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIW Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 You'd happily shoot children? How old are you? Do you have children of your own? If so is that what you teach them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 ... Children are just a reflection of their upbringing at that age... Also some evidence that genetic factors, and physical differences in parts of the brain (differences from "normal"), can be associated with antisocial and psychopathic behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Some kids are evil though. I mean what those two did was pure evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Some kids are evil though. I mean what those two did was pure evil. What does that mean, though? What does it tell us about what to do with them, or more importantly, how to try to reduce the number of similar things happening in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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