trimandson Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 Any more lately Santa? Didn't play football yesterday due to the school being shut, so hit the road tonight to stretch out a bit, trying to do a bit of interval running, it was alright, but didn't leave me with the same sense of achievement as a LSR. Back out on the 10k tomorrow with D1, mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimandson Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 Right, been out again tonight, done 10k again, with Si again.... We run at a speed far greater than any other run we've ever done, we walked far less than any other run we've ever done, we practically powered back to the house at the end, yet our time was pretty much exactly the same as last week. What's all that about? We both expected it to be a lot quicker, but it's an almost on the dot 1.05-1.10 time even when we're blasting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 28, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2009 Right, been out again tonight, done 10k again, with Si again.... We run at a speed far greater than any other run we've ever done, we walked far less than any other run we've ever done, we practically powered back to the house at the end, yet our time was pretty much exactly the same as last week. What's all that about? We both expected it to be a lot quicker, but it's an almost on the dot 1.05-1.10 time even when we're blasting it.Time to drop the walking. mes braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimandson Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 I don't think Si needs it to be fair, but a combination of legs getting tired and lungs going mean I just need say 15 or 20 seconds to catch up again. Some way from doing 10k without at the minute, am I running too quick or is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 I don't think Si needs it to be fair, but a combination of legs getting tired and lungs going mean I just need say 15 or 20 seconds to catch up again. Some way from doing 10k without at the minute, am I running too quick or is this normal?Actually 15-20 seconds is OK, but I reckon it's mainly psychological by now. If you've put in an effort (either a burst of speed or an uphill slog), just try for an "active recovery" - not actually walking, but a slightly slower run/jog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 I had a pleasant surprise when I weighed myself this morning (first time for months) I'm assuming it's mostly down to the running and cutting right back on the booze but I've lost 3/4 of a stone since beginning of May (when I started running) so I must be doing something right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCLaura Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Good for you D1! That's brilliant. I know Trim has too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Actually 15-20 seconds is OK, but I reckon it's mainly psychological by now. an awful lot of distance running is psychological IMO. Your head cries "stop", but once you've got the base fitness, you've got to fight those internal demons, and just keep going. as Mike says, if you need a bit of a break, just jog a little slower for a bit, without stopping. Break that pyschological stopping barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 My best "how to beat the demons" story ever: Dewsbury 10K, 2007. I'm in the last couple of miles, doing OK, but the voices in my had are saying "Bloody hell, I'm tired. I could slow down a bit and probably still edge a PB. Let's ease off a little". Then I see this fabulous female arse in front of me, so I speed up to have a better look. I pull up alongside. Bloody hell, it's Nell McAndrew. Don't want her to think I'm a stalker so I accelerate ahead. She also accelerates and pulls up level. I accelerate again. So does she. Wahey, I'm having a race with a supermodel. I've completely forgotten about the voices in my head. I hit the finish line two seconds ahead of her, smashing my PB. We have a quick chat and agree that the "mini-race" got us both to the finish faster than we would otherwise have done. Nice lady. So. If ever you're struggling on a run, just find yourself a supermodel. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimandson Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Ha, ok I'm there next time, thanks for the feedback all, Saturday morning is the next one, we gonna smash it Si! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 Trim, are you doing the same 10K route every time? You might want to vary your runs a bit, try some different routes - especially if you can get off-road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Trim, are you doing the same 10K route every time? You might want to vary your runs a bit, try some different routes - especially if you can get off-road. :nod: let's off-road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 I knew somebody would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimandson Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Why Mooney? You think it would help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 Why Mooney? You think it would help?Yes. You can get stuck in a rut doing the same route over and over again. You get obsessed with doing PBs, etc. Try a route with more hills. Or less hills. Or a longer one. Or shorter. Try running without your watch, just for the fun of it (it also teaches you to learn pacing from the way your body feels, not by the stopwatch). Off-road is kinder on the feet and knees, and teaches you to run fast over uneven terrain. Variety is the spice of running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimandson Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 TBF, I got no problem with the route, it's still all very new to me at the minute, still very exciting because each week I hit a new benchmark. What I'm going to try and do is fit in a different run during the week though if I can, can't really decide when or what to do though... I play 7-a-side Monday nights for 60-90 minutes. Wednesday - 10k with Si Saturday/Sunday - 10k with Si What's the deal with recovery times and rest times and that? If I went out on a Thursday or Friday would it be too much do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted October 29, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2009 Why Mooney? You think it would help?Yes. You can get stuck in a rut doing the same route over and over again. You get obsessed with doing PBs, etc. Try a route with more hills. Or less hills. Or a longer one. Or shorter. Try running without your watch, just for the fun of it (it also teaches you to learn pacing from the way your body feels, not by the stopwatch). Off-road is kinder on the feet and knees, and teaches you to run fast over uneven terrain. Variety is the spice of running. I have actually got an offroad route idea but It would have to be one for daytime only. Think I'll map it out on WalkJogRun and see how far it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Dont know much about running but... think some of it depends how old you are. do you go eyeballs out in the 10k runs or can you talk to each other ? In bike racing , I might do a recovery ride on Monday after racing on Sunday. Supposed to get rid of lactic acid etc; if you use a pulse meter that should tell you if you are recovered or not I think. Do you go out Saturday AND Sunday or Saturday OR Sunday ? I wish I could start running 'cos I know it is good - but it hurts my legs too much ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimandson Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Let me know Si if ya do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 well i'm still no nearer the comeback trail ..it's been stop start and now I've got poxy tonsillitis again for the 4th time this year ..looks as though i'm going in to have them taken out , seeing the Bupa dude tomorrow to find out the plan of attack i jogged home from the pub the other week which felt great and the alcohol masked the impact but my knees really felt it over the next couple of days , so still not sure if my knees will take road running my latest thought is seeing as i'm a bit of a night owl and come alive around about 22:00 i might invest in a treadmill for home ..instead of interwebbing i might as well do some exercise .... i am not overly keen on treadmills , always felt unnatural for my rhythm as i always had a long stride despite being a shorty but i'm just at that point that even if i get on the bloody thing and jog lightly at 12 kph it has to be better than nothing the literature claims they are about 30% less impact than road running so that might just do for me !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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