GlobalVillan Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, villan95 said: You said Ramsey would "go for" £35M though so I disagree. I'd be very disappointed if the club sold for that. And while I don't particularly like Transfermarkt valuations they only value Eze at £41M too so not much more than Ramsey. Eze is their star man, Ramsey is not even in our top 5 best players, I would argue not in our top 10 so that would make a huge difference transfer wise. Anyway, we aren't selling any first team players atm so it's all irrelevant. I was just agreeing with @VillaChris that I would swap the two if we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Eze is their star man, Ramsey is not even in our top 5 best players, I would argue not in our top 10 so that would make a huge difference transfer wise. Anyway, we aren't selling any first team players atm so it's all irrelevant. I was just agreeing with @VillaChris that I would swap the two if we could. Fair enough. I don't think I would. Ramsey is 3 years younger and put up similar numbers last season. Also it's nice to keep as many good academy players as possible. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 24 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Eze is their star man, Ramsey is not even in our top 5 best players, I would argue not in our top 10 so that would make a huge difference transfer wise. Anyway, we aren't selling any first team players atm so it's all irrelevant. I was just agreeing with @VillaChris that I would swap the two if we could. 60 minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, villan95 said: You said Ramsey would "go for" £35M though so I disagree. I'd be very disappointed if the club sold for that. And while I don't particularly like Transfermarkt valuations they only value Eze at £41M too so not much more than Ramsey. Transfermarkt valuations are ridiculous and just made up. They're often massively under or over inflated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 25 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Transfermarkt valuations are ridiculous and just made up. They're often massively under or over inflated Usually under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 43 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Transfermarkt valuations are ridiculous and just made up. They're often massively under or over inflated Yep they value Martinez and Cash at the same price for example 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 hours ago, GlobalVillan said: Whilst I agree with you regards the trade, I don't think Ramsey would go for more than 35mil or so and Eze would be double that. Yeh what global. Ramsey has played over 100 prem games now. O.k he's been off it this season due to injury disruption but he finished last season playing a very high level indeed when you think of his games v Newcastle, Liverpool and Brighton on the final day when he was magnificent. Next season he'll hopefully be a regular for us in CL and get an England call up or to so not chance he'd be under 50m in today's valuations once he gets his fitness up again. It is worth noting he is still only 22, Eze is 26 in June. Summer 2025 feels like when we'll have to sell a key player for FFP requirements so just feels given how strong our central midfield is that Ramsey may have to be sacrificed but of course plenty can still happen in next 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UpTheVilla26 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Why is there even a 'discussion' about swapping/selling JJ? The kid is class, he's suffered this season due to injury but he will regain form and will be a huge part of this club's future. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jas10 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, UpTheVilla26 said: Why is there even a 'discussion' about swapping/selling JJ? The kid is class, he's suffered this season due to injury but he will regain form and will be a huge part of this club's future. Really sad how quickly some people turn on our players, especially the better ones… Poor kid suffered a significant injury, was utterly outstanding before it and a huge part of us achieving what we did last season… He’s such a talent and Villa through-and-through… I wouldn’t swap him for any of the names thrown around… A big player for the present and future… Will soon shut any critics up too… he’s too good not to… Not going anywhere… Edited January 20 by Jas10 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Transfermarkt valuations are ridiculous and just made up. They're often massively under or over inflated It’s probably the worst and most stupid source for “valuations” Always ridiculously low and not even close to reality… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think we know one of our players will be sold so we can reinvest and JJ being homegrown fits that bill sadly due to FFP. Also we’re 4th with him being out of the picture due to injury and I cannot see us being in that position if we were missing Luiz or Kamara for instance for the same period. He is a great player but also somewhat dispensable in some aspects. Don’t wanna sell him but rather him than the aforementioned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Transfermarkt lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vancvillan said: Transfermarkt lol Is that his value? Are they on mushrooms? Edited January 21 by calcifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, calcifer said: Is that his value? Are they on mushrooms? Fair market value for the 16th best keeper in the world. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, calcifer said: Is that his value? Are they on mushrooms? Transfermarkt is so stupid it values players higher at higher profile clubs. AWB was 5m at Palace then signs for Manure and they changed him to 50m. It's completely made up Edited January 21 by Kiwivillan 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, thabucks said: I think we know one of our players will be sold so we can reinvest and JJ being homegrown fits that bill sadly due to FFP. Also we’re 4th with him being out of the picture due to injury and I cannot see us being in that position if we were missing Luiz or Kamara for instance for the same period. He is a great player but also somewhat dispensable in some aspects. Don’t wanna sell him but rather him than the aforementioned. The flip side of this is that we do need to be aware of our Homegrown/Non-HG quota, which I imagine we are at the limit of, hence the Morgan Rogers link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) To be fair they undervalue most keepers. Their most costly is 45m and they have Ederson & Alisson at 40m. Perhaps they still think keepers are worth far less than outfield players, as they were 40 years ago, as for Emi it's only Aston Villa aren't they still a selling club and wouldn't he be better off at a CL club? They are not the only ones whose radar we are still flying below and he's not for sale at any price, so who cares what they price him at? Edited January 21 by John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Transfermarkt is so stupid it values players higher at higher profile clubs. AWB was 5m at Palace then signs for Manure and they changed him to 50m. It's completely made up Not that I disagree but as I alwqys understood it the value of a player contract surely comes into it. So, a player on 2 year remaining contract and 60k a week will be worth x amount. If they are snapped by another Club and given a 5 year deal on 100k they are now obviously going to be more expensive to buy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think the 2024 exits on permanent basis would be the following. End of Loan: Lenglet and Zaniolo (possibly he signs) Fringe players: Sanson, Chambers, Traore, Hause, Olsen, Dendoncker Youth Players: KKH and Iroegbunam, possibly one more. Regular starters: Cash, Digne We also need to get Coutinho back out on Loan with wages covered as we have today. Assume this window we sign Rogers, have the new GK and the young RB. THis leaves us with a key RB signing ala Frimpong. We need a CDM as an alternative to Kamara. I feel we need a right footed winger (Philogene back?) and we need a new LB ideally young to compete with Moreno. That will all be a big ask to pull off and will be a big success if we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vancvillan said: Fair market value for the 16th best keeper in the world. There is another joke, 16th best keeper I need to go look at the full list Edit.. just looked Onana ranked 6th that's the best laugh I have had all weekend Edited January 21 by calcifer Research 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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