Made In Aston Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: We need to recruit well in the summer, because it is not sustainable that our best players play 50+ matches in a season. Both because burn out at the end of the season and also to avoid injuries because of fatigue and tiredness. If we e able to identify a couple with similar quality and price to Rogers that will be the best we can hope for, as we don't have the finances to have someone with a large wage like lenglet on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 5 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, maqroll said: Hate to have to agree with you. Europe was always going to present this problem. We've dealt with it amazingly well, especially seeing as we lost 2 key players by the end of the first half of the first game of the season. Then all the injuries after that, going deep into the late stages of a European competition and being 4th is incredible. Postecoglou hasn't managed to maintain the intensity with a larger more expensive squad and they've played 15 less games. Couldn't watch today's game but judging by Emery's post match interview and De Zerbi's comments we were dead on our feet. We have two league games to get 3 points in to completey take it out of Spurs' hands but realistically City should stuff them as they need the points for the title so we might be ok as it stands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 5 Moderator Share Posted May 5 It's not really about us anymore is it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Just now, romavillan said: We've dealt with it amazingly well, especially seeing as we lost 2 key players by the end of the first half of the first game of the season. Then all the injuries after that, going deep into the late stages of a European competition and being 4th is incredible. Postecoglou hasn't managed to maintain the intensity with a larger more expensive squad and they've played 15 less games. Couldn't watch today's game but judging by Emery's post match interview and De Zerbi's comments we were dead on our feet. We have two league games to get 3 points in to completey take it out of Spurs' hands but realistically City should stuff them as they need the points for the title so we might be ok as it stands. Mate they were a shadow of the team we know against a Brighton team that clearly had a point to prove after their recent poor form. Nearly dug deep and got the point but it was always going to be difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Not targeting you but posts like this really annoy me. You think the players can pick and choose when they win or lose ? The expression was not intended to sound that unsophisticated. What I was attempting to convey is that the team as a collective, including the manager and coaches, have to find a way to be more composed, more ruthless, and more tactically shrewd when presented with certain opportunities over the course of the season to advance in tournaments, close the gap on an immediate rival or put distance on an immediate rival. Elite teams who operate at the highest levels for sustained periods of time are able to do this, and that's why they win trophies- by employing a combination of psychology and planning to optimize performance. It's really not an esoteric concept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: It's not really about us anymore is it? I don’t think so bar a miracle for Spurs against a fully fit fit City squad on peak form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 5 VT Supporter Share Posted May 5 If Spurs manage to get a point against City though it would be nice for us to get a point against Liverpool to just get over the line. Will be very stressful last day if we're relying on goal difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: The expression was not intended to sound that unsophisticated. What I was attempting to convey is that the team as a collective, including the manager and coaches, have to find a way to be more composed, more ruthless, and more tactically shrewd when presented with certain opportunities over the course of the season to advance in tournaments, close the gap on an immediate rival or put distance on an immediate rival. Elite teams who operate at the highest levels for sustained periods of time are able to do this, and that's why they win trophies- by employing a combination of psychology and planning to optimize performance. It's really not an esoteric concept. But in most instance they can do that because they have the squad and players that are good enough to do it. We have a squad that Emery took over that was arguably a mid table one. We have over achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: It's not really about us anymore is it? Great point. We can LOSE the final two games to remain at 67. Spurs must WIN all three of their games to have any hope of finishing above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: If Spurs manage to get a point against City though it would be nice for us to get a point against Liverpool to just get over the line. Will be very stressful last day if we're relying on goal difference... The dropped point today really sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: But in most instance they can do that because they have the squad and players that are good enough to do it. We have a squad that Emery took over that was arguably a mid table one. We have over achieved. Well, I think that's probably separate conversation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 8 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: It's not really about us anymore is it? I'd like to think we'll give something decent last game of the season if that is important. Hopefully it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, maqroll said: Well, I think that's probably separate conversation. When we have a squad that should be finishing top 4. I’ll agree with the points you made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, Tayls said: Why are we so annoyingly shite when it really really matters? Could all be bloody over this evening if we didn’t prat about! I reckon it is anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 12 minutes ago, maqroll said: Great point. We can LOSE the final two games to remain at 67. Spurs must WIN all three of their games to have any hope of finishing above us. Spurs only need to beat burnley & sheff utd, Can draw with city & still go above us on goal difference. 9 goals swing doesn't seem far fetched at all against burnley/sheff utd and in your "we can lose both games" we would also be at least 2 goals worse off so they would only need a maximum of 7 goals, probably much less as Liverpool will score more than 1 against us easily the way we are playing Edited May 5 by LakotaDakota 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 11 minutes ago, maqroll said: Great point. We can LOSE the final two games to remain at 67. Spurs must WIN all three of their games to have any hope of finishing above us. As long as the GD doesn’t swing too much this is how I’m seeing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Spurs only need to beat burnley & sheff utd, Can draw with city & still go above us on goal difference. 9 goals swing doesn't seem far fetched at all against burnley/sheff utd and in your "we can lose both games" we would also be at least 2 goals worse off so they would only need a maximum of 7 goals, probably much less as Liverpool will score more than 1 against us easily the way we are playing My worry too. It’s fair to assume Spurs add 6 goals to their GD against Burnley and Sheff Utd. It’s over to you to speculate how that affects us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 This is quite good for perspective from last season after we beat Newcastle 3-0: Aston Villa 3-0 Newcastle: Ollie Watkins scores twice in comfortable win - BBC Sport We were closer to 3rd then with six point gap and 7 games remaining than Spurs are to us now with just three games remaining for them. In the end we finished comfortably behind Newcastle and Man. United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Spurs only need to beat burnley & sheff utd, Can draw with city & still go above us on goal difference. 9 goals swing doesn't seem far fetched at all against burnley/sheff utd and in your "we can lose both games" we would also be at least 2 goals worse off so they would only need a maximum of 7 goals, probably much less as Liverpool will score more than 1 against us easily the way we are playing Yes would've been basically over with the GD if Spurs had lost 4 or 5 nil at Anfield but the two goals have still given them a chance there if they get a point v Man. City and win the other two well. We'd certainly have to get a point in that scenario imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 12 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Spurs only need to beat burnley & sheff utd, Can draw with city & still go above us on goal difference. 9 goals swing doesn't seem far fetched at all against burnley/sheff utd and in your "we can lose both games" we would also be at least 2 goals worse off so they would only need a maximum of 7 goals, probably much less as Liverpool will score more than 1 against us easily the way we are playing So true. City could easily lose out on the title by drawing against a spurs team that just lost 4 in a row and conceded over 10 goals. Top 4 still in the balance lads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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