TRO Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, duke313 said: The main priority right now should be to get rid of Gerrard. Even if we don't have anyone lined up, give it to Critchley until after the WC if need be. No the main priority, is to wins games, and get up the league. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRO said: No the main priority, is to wins games, and get up the league. Which we aren't doing with Gerrard. Get rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Is this Gallardo talk a legit link or just wishful thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, maqroll said: Is this Gallardo talk a legit link or just wishful thinking? Wishful thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Pinebro said: Would only get excited about the first 2 names on your list. Thats why I put them top! The others are good managers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, maqroll said: Is this Gallardo talk a legit link or just wishful thinking? It's legit but the club needs to order a good supply of buckets or he will turn us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 It's so bad now we don't even need a big name manager to improve us, 90% of available managers can't do any worse than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 Love all this talk of 'anyone except gerrard'! Let's see about that once the search is underway! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Teale's 'tache Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) I have a number of concerns at the moment. Firstly, when we finally decide to make a change there are going to be some big footballing decisions to make, and I'm no longer convinced by the people that will most likely be making them. First big decision is what to do about Purslow, and how much blame should be attributed to him. It seems he has overstepped in to footballing matters to employ the manger he wanted. This has been a very damaging decision, not only because of what has happened on the pitch, but also the complete abandonment of a club ethos and a 180 degree change in transfer policy that has followed. We've essentially ripped everything up and started again, but this was not the plan we, and likely the owners, were sold when Smith was employed, what was supposed to happen when Smith was relieved of his duties was that another head coach would be appointed that could follow, or work within, the ethos and transfer policy already in place. This way we 'd continue to progress, and losing a head coach would be nothing more than a bump in the road. I'm not sure what was sold to the owners, by Gerrard or Purslow, but it must of been mighty convincing for them to have gone a long with it and abandoned the previously agreed upon strategy. Obviously, whatever was sold has certainly not come to pass, and if indeed it was Purslow's sell then I can't imagine the owners are too happy with him. Some trust will certainly have been broken, nobody likes to be sold something that turns out to be faulty. Do they trust Purslow enough to be involved in appointing the next manager? Should he even of been involved in the process of appointing Gerrard at all? They trust Purslow to do the day to day running of the club and from a commercial point of view he's been doing an excellent job by all accounts, but the footballing side is not really his remit, we have a sporting director for that. Which brings us on to Lange, from the outside looking in it seems like there's been a bit of a power struggle going on. Lange and his philosophies seem to have been moved aside to accommodate anything Gerrard wants, including transfer policy, when in theory it should be the other way around. Lange as sporting director should be dictating to Gerrard the manager, but of course Gerrard can bypass him and go straight to Purslow to get what he wants, it leaves Lange in an unenviable position, and he appears to have just accepted this new arrangement. I think I want my sporting director to be stronger than that. Footballing matters fall on his shoulders and I'd be very interested to learn if he had any say in Gerrards appointment or the change in transfer strategy, has he just said yes against his better judgment or has he just got starry eyed and agreed with anything the great Steven Gerrard has said? Another decision after Gerrard has gone is, what is our philosophy now? Where do we want to go from here and how do we intend to get there? What is our transfer strategy now? Do the owners trust Purslow and/or Lange to get the next appointment correct? Do they want to revert back to the old philosophy? If so how easy is that going to be with Lange/Purslow still in place? If they get rid of Purlsow, then they have to rely on Lange to make the next appointment, if they get rid of Lange they have to rely on Purslow, but he's already shown that that kind of trust could well be misplaced. If they get rid of both?... Do they make an appointment themselves? I don't think that is their style. I feel a lot of these questions need to be answered before we can realistically start drawing up lists of who the best man for the job might be, and also what is the job now exactly? Head Coach or Manager? How much sway should the new guy get? We're in a right old mess, and one bad appointment has put us there, in my opinion one good appointment could go a long way to at least getting us back where we started, but who's making that decision and can they be trusted? I'm sorry about all the questions, I promise I don't have that annoying upwards inflection every time I ask one... Edited October 17, 2022 by Teale's 'tache typo in my typo 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 Bang on @Teale's 'tache, hopefully the team that proposed and decided on Smith will be the people making the decision. We need to get back to the original plan IMO, we already have invested a lot in youth and it's not too late to get back to that still. We should never have abandoned the DoF, Head Coach model and installed an old school Manager. The DoF should be the lead in the philosophy and the Head Coach should be tasked with getting that to work well on the pitch. Then changing a Head Coach doesn't mean starting from scratch yet again. Purslow needs to step back from the football side and if Lange isn't the man to oversee all the football side from top to bottom then we need someone who can. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, mrhaneen said: My potshot theory is that Southgate is leaving England after the World Cup, regardless of how England get on and we’ve already agreed a deal with him. We’ve agreed with the FA/Southgate to keep it quiet so it doesn’t prove to be a distraction during the World Cup. Not saying whether he would be a good appointment or not; just a bit of baseless speculation. Has one club ever signed 4 right backs in one January transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 My priorities for the new boss: - Someone with a tactical style that will work with the squad we have available - Someone who has proven that they can cut it in a top league in this modern era of coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I don't get this talk of 'Here are the only available options, Pooch, Tuchel, etc''. There are what, 100 top 5 league managers. There are also various managers from Holland, Belgium, Austria, Portugal, even Turkey. Most would be interested in a PL job. It's the best league in the world. So let's say that a pool of 160 possible names, 15% would be doing too well or would have a too high of a profile to come to Villa. 20% Would not want to move right now, another 20% would not want to leave their country for various reasons. There are many, many options and a good Football Director can find someone from a list of 50-60 possible names that would improve us. The list is much longer than we think - it's not just Benitez or Dyche we are destined for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 17, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, duke313 said: The main priority right now should be to get rid of Gerrard. Even if we don't have anyone lined up, give it to Critchley until after the WC if need be. No, we can't do without a manager even if that manager is Gerrard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mic09 said: I don't get this talk of 'Here are the only available options, Pooch, Tuchel, etc''. There are what, 100 top 5 league managers. There are also various managers from Holland, Belgium, Austria, Portugal, even Turkey. Most would be interested in a PL job. It's the best league in the world. So let's say that a pool of 160 possible names, 15% would be doing too well or would have a too high of a profile to come to Villa. 20% Would not want to move right now, another 20% would not want to leave their country for various reasons. There are many, many options and a good Football Director can find someone from a list of 50-60 possible names that would improve us. The list is much longer than we think - it's not just Benitez or Dyche we are destined for. In theory, yes. This lot have two appointments under its belt - one where they went on managerial CV (and chose a guy who got us promoted and kept us up), the other taking a punt on a 'big name' (who is currently close to a Venglos win percentage). The hope is that they've learnt something from all of this and will make a logical decision again this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Leonardo Jardim would be simply perfect for our squad and youngsters we've got coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, tinker said: No, we can't do without a manager even if that manager is Gerrard. I don’t know, Bournemouth are doing alright without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Zatman said: But is no problem staying and supporting Gerrard? It isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, useless said: Leonardo Jardim would be simply perfect for our squad and youngsters we've got coming through. His briliant in every sense of the word Monaco team was all about the pace, skill and speed of youth, we've got plenty of that coming through as well as players already in the first team suited to that style. And it's also the style I associate with the best Villa teams over the years. Edited October 17, 2022 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, useless said: His briliant in every sense of the word Monaco team was all about the pace, skill and speed of youth, we've got plenty of that coming through as well as players already in the first team suited to that style. And it's also the style I associate with the best Villa teams over the years. My only concern is to why he’s managed in Saudi Arabia and UAE after leaving Monaco, and not another top European league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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