TRO Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: They have a great recruitment team but lost their well respected director of football to Newcastle recently. Brighton have acted intelligently in the market and signed talent at low prices, but they have a tight budget and aren't exactly spending freely. Striker is the most expensive category of players -- good strikers are nearly always expensive unless you find them young. I agree. Ah....could that be an issue, for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lupinthe5th said: We should do too! Its just that since Gerrard come in he's demanded older, more experienced players so called "winners" to the team. We need to go back to signing the best young talent. I quite like signing proven winners though, the top top teams all do that, makes sense to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Yeah ****, please don’t do what we did with Dean - up about 20 league places in the space of a year and a half. Terrible road to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, TRO said: I agree. Ah....could that be an issue, for us? I'm sure that's at least one part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, TRO said: I thought that was Johan Lange? but not sure what that character, is all about. Perhaps we will get a scandinavian manager next? Are there even any good ones around? Ole-Gunnar? Can't think of a single Swedish one, but I'm not very keen on Swedish football to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, TRO said: Take a look at Viera's record too......Eddie Howe, couldn't buy a win when he first came, while SG picked up 4. We need to ensure we don't lose our heads, while those around us are losing theirs. He looks broken too.....has their buying dried up? Funny how all the best managers, have the best players....is it a coincidence? I hear what you're saying TRO. Maybe chopping managers all the time isn't the right way? I think that with Gerrard people will become less patient for multiple reasons: 1) Not a very likeable person - miserable git! 2) Liverpool connection 3) Way he used to play against us when a Liverpool player 4) Unknown qty other than winning a two horse race in Scotland 5) His treatment of certain players 6) He came in after Smith so someone without a connection to the club after someone who was Villa through and through etc. However, I believe that most, if not all, of those could be forgiven if we the fans could see some sort of identity in the way we are trying to play. Right now, we look completely out of ideas as a team. I watch us and have no idea what we are trying to do and it just seems like he himself has no ideas. I'd love him to tell us what exactly it is he is trying to get the players to do because I have no clue. I had the feeling last season that we were playing like a team that was trying to get the manager sacked. I think I even stated so on here in the Gerrard thread at one point. If that is the case, there's no better time to do that than at the start of the season when there's plenty of time to turn things around under a new manager. I just get the feeling he's pissed too many of them off with the way he is and the way he has gone about things. Now, maybe he is right. Maybe he sees weak players and wants to toughen them up for a fight for success and some aren't up to it. But, unless the club throw plenty of money at him I doubt he will be able to get rid of them and get players in that he does want. I get the feeling the money has dried up to an extent in order to pay for the rebuild. With that in mind, surely we would be looking for a replacement with an eye on that and would want someone to get the best out of what we already have? I think that man right now would probably be Graham Potter. He is supposedly a Villa fan so they might wish to explore that route again whilst we get through the transitional period of rebuilding the stadium. To be honest, I think all any real fan wants is to get some entertainment for their money. Right now, we certainly aren't getting value for money from our team in terms of what they putting on show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, daft said: Are there even any good ones around? Ole-Gunnar? Can't think of a single Swedish one, but I'm not very keen on Swedish football to be honest. Swedish - Olof Mellberg Danish - Martin Laursen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Danny Murphy, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, TRO said: This squad needs a serious rebuild....its not balanced right....and that is a daunting task. We have some decent players, but it is not a TEAM......While I accept its a coaching issue, its much ,more too. The coach whoever he is, needs a balance to work with, too many of our players are essentially the same or similar.....and too many are not functioning to their full potential all at the same time.....thats is hard to turn around. The Transfer window has not helped either, after an encouraging start.....I think the club may have lost confidence, in the amont of damp squibs, we have signed......something is not right. I don't know, who would turn this around, in the time we want.....and Potters record is no better on paper than SG's , it wasn't that much better at Swansea either. I agree - I would argue our team is much less balanced than it was a year ago, when things were fairly harmonious and we'd had several transfer windows of buying players for a specific plan/system. Under those circumstances I think Potter could've come in and built a really good squad ready for this season. I'm not convinced he's right for the job now, and think he'd be mad to come here tbh. My preference would still be Rodgers, I think he'd be able to get us playing effective football much quicker and would make a good go of the January window to fix issues in the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 A REBUILD? **** me 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, birdistheword said: Leicester fans would seemingly drive Rogers here as they want him out. Don’t know how accurate this is but it’s from their forum… Don’t know about the other managers but I don’t believe that’s quite correct for Gerrard’s overall record. I make it P31 W11 D5 L15 - 1.23PPG I don’t know if the context of the Leicester supporters conversation is that they think that that return for us is good, but if they wanted to look at the return from Boxing Day onwards they’d find the PPG for the following 25 games since is 1.04. IF we were to lose tonight, the PPG would be a “nice” round 1.00. Just further to this, of the 38 points attained since his arrival, nearly a third (31.6%) were during those opening 6 games. Over a third (36.4%) of our wins were during that opening month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, est1874 said: Swedish - Olof Mellberg Danish - Martin Laursen I actually suggested Mellberg (as a joke) a few pages back. And managed to forget. Then again, he seems pretty shit as a manager tbh. Laursen has no badges from what I gather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, daft said: I actually suggested Mellberg (as a joke) a few pages back. And managed to forget. Then again, he seems pretty shit as a manager tbh. Laursen has no badges from what I gather? Yeah, strangely neither of them have amounted to much. They were such good leaders on the pitch, with such defensive nous, I'd have thought they'd make good coaches, if not managers. Apparently not. Shame really. Though understand it's not for everyone either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, est1874 said: Yeah, strangely neither of them have amounted to much. They were such good leaders on the pitch, with such defensive nous, I'd have thought they'd make good coaches, if not managers. Apparently not. Shame really. Though understand it's not for everyone either. Laursen I think is simply not keen. He did actually manage a bunch or so years ago, but I think he's said he's content to coach his sons team and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: New manager bounce. One of the reasons that if you look at the whole of his time here you have to consider the bounce when he came in. He also didn't have time to make too many changes tactically or to formation. Since he's started to tinker around with the system we've become much worse. Worse even than prior to his arrival. We should appoint a new one every other week. Would win the league immediately. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Oh,please,please,please lets hire a manager that knows what he is doing.....and,more importantly,has proved he knows what he is doing in the Premier League.y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Not sure about Potter to be honest, just because a manager follows Villa should not be a pre-requisite for the Villa managers job! I do think we need a manager with Premier League experience though, it's a tough gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Any glimmer of truth in the rumour of the big wigs talking to Poch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, TRO said: If Graham Potter is to become the next Villa Manager, I fear we are going down a similar road to what we did with Dean......boyhood villa fan yes, but the real worry is, The backroom setup at Brighton, is like Brentford.....and He can't take that with him, like Dean couldn't. Lets just have a look at his record at Brighton P W D L Win Ratio PPG 134 41 46 47 30.6% 1.26 Now thats on the back of a good recruitment set up.....which ours is debatable. That to me, looks like "hard to beat"....which is something, right now, but not much more than that. It's Brighton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Why are people citing "what we did with Smith" as a bad thing? He got us promoted, kept us in the league, and when he couldn't take us any further he was moved on. That is exactly what we should be doing. People are always looking for a manager who is going to stay here for 20 years and win every trophy going with us. It doesn't happen. We need to recruit a manager who will take us on that next step. For us that should be making us a top half team and challenging for Europe. If he can then keep progressing us and take us into Europe and climbing the table then he stays. if he can't, then he goes and we recruit the next guy who takes us another step further. We aren't going to discover the next Arsene Wenger. People need to stop turning their noses up at managers who aren't good enough to win the league or whatever. We don't need that. Edited August 31, 2022 by Stevo985 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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