duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Manure have to play Lindelof and Maguire for the rest of the season Watkins is going to have a field day against them two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, bobzy said: Mostly, they’re clubs with modern prestige who can attract the very top players (and managers) and have the money to back that up. There’s a reason we have the “top 6”. Even when sides mess up, they’re usually back within 2 seasons - Arsenal possibly the exception here? But they stuck with Arteta and a plan and it’s now paying dividends. They all look beatable at the moment and the gap is certainly closing overall - but the challenge remains. I’ve seen nothing to suggest Liverpool have serious money. They can dip in to the market now and then to make a big signing but they don’t do it with any level of frequency . Old decrepit squad that won’t be fixed overnight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: I’ve seen nothing to suggest Liverpool have serious money. They can dip in to the market now and then to make a big signing but they don’t do it with any level of frequency . Old decrepit squad that won’t be fixed overnight. Precisely. Add to the fact the owners want to sell, they aren't going to see the kind of investment their fans expect, and what would be needed to fix their issues, certainly not in one window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Jesus look at Manure fixtures all comps over 18 days. I assume this ok for this thread as relevant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: I’ve seen nothing to suggest Liverpool have serious money. They can dip in to the market now and then to make a big signing but they don’t do it with any level of frequency . Old decrepit squad that won’t be fixed overnight. Sure - but they could make maybe 2 signings that would turn them around, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: Sure - but they could make maybe 2 signings that would turn them around, no? Really no plus many have them figured out and nullified old threats Edited April 17, 2023 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: The 6 points isn't the issue. I get optimism and all that, but I don't see how people can blatantly ignore the clubs around us with games in hand. lol Realistically, we need to keep winning just to stay in 6th ffs, and even then, we could still win and not finish 6th. Brighton just need a draw to leapfrog us on GD with a game in hand for example. We'd have to win near all our remaining games to have a chance of finishing 4th. Let's be sensible, even as we break down barriers week by week. I feel this is why some people often end up dissappointed. I genuinely think we’ve zero chance of getting 4th, it’s the Europa we’re capable of making. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Best result for us is a spurs loss vs Newcastle imo, we need them to drop out of the top 7 and I think they well looking at their fixtures. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Which Premier League clubs will qualify for the Champions League, Europa League and Europa Conference League? (espn.com) Not sure if this was posted before, but ESPN seems to fancy us ahead of Liverpool for a European spot. Quote Who is in contention for Europe? Arsenal (74 points, 31 games) and Manchester City (70, 30 games) are clear in first and second, and both appear certain to be playing in the Champions League next season. Manchester United (59, 30 games) and Newcastle United (56, 30 games) hold the cards in third and fourth, with Tottenham Hotspur three points further back having played a game more. The final Champions League places are most likely to go to two of these three clubs. However, two clubs could gatecrash the race: Aston Villa (50, 31 games) and Brighton & Hove Albion (49, 29 games). The other clubs in contention for Europe are Liverpool (44, 29 games), Brentford (43, 31 games), Fulham (42, 30 games) and Chelsea (39, 31 games), but their hopes of contesting for a European place may depend on whether sixth or seventh ends up qualifying. Article from 5 days ago before the weekends games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: Sure - but they could make maybe 2 signings that would turn them around, no? No chance, van dijk looks to be declining, they need three midfielders, robertson isn’t the same player as a few seasons ago, Trent looks badly exposed now defensively. They need huge investment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 What if most of competing teams draw against each other while we win games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 It should also be stated that Liverpool do not want to be in the Europa Conference, I suspect they'd rather finish 8th than 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 We love you Leeds, Leeds, LEEDS....... 0-3 Liverpool I expect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I'd take a Spurs win and Villa win this weekend. 3 points behind Spurs and Newcastle with a hand full of games left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) This is about the equivalent of the FiveThirtyEight predictions as of yesterday, with fixtures ordered as they land (in italics are assumed order of unscheduled games), moving to a new row when next fixtures kick off after previous have finished. Has us 5th or tied 5th for most of remainder of season, even following the scheduled 36th game weekend, but final games for Spurs, Brighton and Liverpool push them ahead of us. in the last weeks. Winning every game gets us to 71 so 4th place is a massive ask that requires us to be near perfect and one of Utd and Newcastle to tank badly. 5th is well within our grasp now though. Edited April 17, 2023 by tomsky_11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I still think Brighton and Liverpool will finish above us, but I also think Spurs may drop out of it all together. This would mean a 7th place finish which would be an incredible achievement. I'll still be gutted we didn't make the Europa League though! Next two games are massive. Win both and we can actually afford to lose a couple towards the end of the season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: This is about the equivalent of the FiveThirtyEight predictions as of yesterday, with fixtures ordered as they land (in italics are assumed order of unscheduled games), moving to a new row when next fixtures kick off after previous have finished. Has us 5th or tied 5th for most of remainder of season, even following the scheduled 36th game weekend, but final games for Spurs, Brighton and Liverpool push them ahead of us. in the last weeks. Winning every game gets us to 71 so 4th place is a massive ask that requires us to be near perfect and one of Utd and Newcastle to tank badly. 5th is well within our grasp now though. So it thinks we can’t beat any team above us or sky6 teams? We only win 2 of the next 7 on our current form? The Liverpool predictions are all over the place….drawing with Leicester and Leeds, losing to West Ham but beating Spurs and us. Weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: This is about the equivalent of the FiveThirtyEight predictions as of yesterday, with fixtures ordered as they land (in italics are assumed order of unscheduled games), moving to a new row when next fixtures kick off after previous have finished. Has us 5th or tied 5th for most of remainder of season, even following the scheduled 36th game weekend, but final games for Spurs, Brighton and Liverpool push them ahead of us. in the last weeks. Winning every game gets us to 71 so 4th place is a massive ask that requires us to be near perfect and one of Utd and Newcastle to tank badly. 5th is well within our grasp now though. Looking at that we need United to get results against spurs Brighton and Liverpool. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, VillaChris said: We love you Leeds, Leeds, LEEDS....... 0-3 Liverpool I expect though. Liverpool haven't even scored an away goal against teams in the bottom half since they beat us 3-1 on 26th Dec Their away form this season is abysmal. Fulham 2–2 Liverpool Manchester United 2–1 Liverpool Everton 0–0 Liverpool Arsenal 3–2 Liverpool Nottingham Forest 1–0 Liverpool Tottenham Hotspur 1–2 Liverpool Aston Villa 1–3 Liverpool Brentford 3–1 Liverpool Brighton 3–0 Liverpool Wolverhampton 3–0 Liverpool Newcastle United 0–2 Liverpool Crystal Palace 0–0 Liverpool Bournemouth 1–0 Liverpool Manchester City 4–1 Liverpool Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool Edited April 17, 2023 by duke313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I still think Brighton and Liverpool will finish above us, but I also think Spurs may drop out of it all together. This would mean a 7th place finish which would be an incredible achievement. I'll still be gutted we didn't make the Europa League though! Next two games are massive. Win both and we can actually afford to lose a couple towards the end of the season. I think it’s all going to be too close to predict now. One freak goal, a bad VAR decision could really make a difference now. The points look like they are going to be so close that any combination of position could happen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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