Loan Thread 2022-23

[fightoffyour]

7 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said:

I don’t know what Luton fans think of him, but his stats there so far do not look good. 

What stats? He's playing most of every game, they appear to be in decent form.

Marv is hardly expected pass or shoot, let alone get any assists or goals, so his WhoScored ratings are never going to be great.

[Laughable Chimp]

1 hour ago, fightoffyour said:

What stats? He's playing most of every game, they appear to be in decent form.

Marv is hardly expected pass or shoot, let alone get any assists or goals, so his WhoScored ratings are never going to be great.

Basically every single stat aside from his tackling is not good. I’m not saying he’s shit or the team is playing poorly, just that his stats don’t look good.

On the topic of whoscored ratings, specialist DMs like him are very capable of posting good ratings there without goals and assists anyway. Kante posted a 7.61 rating which is insanely high the year Leicester won the title for example.

if there are players who I think are underrated via whoscored’s system, it would actually be DMs who are less physical and more passing oriented because they don’t have the defensive nor the attacking stats to boost their rating. High passing accuracy tends to be meaningless when it doesn’t lead to high amount of key passes.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Laughable Chimp

[useless]

Luton fans on twitter

 

Spoiler

If Nakamba has millions of fans i am one of them . If Nakamba has ten fans i am one of them. If Nakamba has only one fan that is me. If Nakamba has no fans, that means I am no longer on this earth .

 

Marvelous has made a massive difference to us, top draw player

 

Number of options for MOM but went with who was absolutely terrific in that CDM role, especially first half. Can't believe he only registered two tackles on the stats as counted more than that in the opening 10 minutes. Looks to be loving his time at Luton so far.

 

Rob Edwards believes the enjoyment that on-loan midfielder Marvelous Nakamba is getting from his loan spell with the #Hatters is translating into his performances on the pitch

 

Nakamba is too good for this level

 

Rob Edwards "He’s such a good lad, he walks around and he’s so humble, so happy. You can really see his professionalism and why he’s played at the level he’s played at, why he’s performing so well for us as well. He’s been terrific and long may that continue as well.

 

There weren't any standouts for Sheffield United, for us every player played well. Standouts were Lockyer, Nakamba and Bell

Another stat to highlight Marvelous Nakamba's importance to the Hatters is during his seven starts, Luton have only conceded twice from open play. One was GK error against Millwall and the other a clearly offside goal in the same game.

 

Nakamba is the answer, tackling from everywhere

 

Edited March 16, 2023 by useless

[useless]

Davis, Nakamba, Iroegbunam, Philogene, Bogarde, Barry, Marschall, Archer, Azaz all start.

Ramsey on the bench, there was talk of him being rotated before Stoke game so not a big surprise

Edited March 18, 2023 by useless

[sne]

Davis & JPB with goals and Archer with an assist so far.

[nepal_villan]

Too bad the Championship is bankrupt these days. Pre pandemic we could have probably gotten 10M+  for the likes of KD and JPB who in all honesty will not break into our squad. Now probably just 2-3M tops.

[useless]

Barry has an assist now.

[tinker]

1 hour ago, nepal_villan said:

Too bad the Championship is bankrupt these days. Pre pandemic we could have probably gotten 10M+  for the likes of KD and JPB who in all honesty will not break into our squad. Now probably just 2-3M tops.

Just sell with buy back clauses or sell on clauses ( buy backs better as it can't be circumnavigated with swaps ) I would guess at least one of these players will break through,  JPB is my bet on eventually  being good enough 

[useless]

Sounds like Philogene has been playing really well since Lamouchi took over, all I'm seeing is constance praise from Cardiff fans with them calling him their most dangerous player, and asking to sign him. I wouldn't sell him just yet, this good form he's showing should get him a move to a better Championship team for next season and see how he does, I bet if you put him in current MIddlesbrough team he would be doing just as well as Archer and Ramsey for example, that he's impressing as much as he is in a struggling Cardiff team is a good sign.

Unfortunately his goal today won't stand as game was postponed.

[Hornso]

Summary from the weekend - When it rains...

Cameron Archer (Middlesbrough) 3rd/24 [Championship]
Home to Preston (4-0) - Substituted in the 81st minute. 45 touches, 79.4% pass accuracy, 4 shots, 2 shots on target, 3 key passes, 2 goals, 1 assist. WhoScored.com rating of 9.56. MOTM.

 

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) 2nd/24 [League One]
Home to Forest Green (2-0) - Played 90 minutes. 64 touches, 75% pass accuracy, 2 shots, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.93.

Louie Barry (Salford City) 7th/24 [League Two]
Home to Doncaster (3-1) - Substituted in the 76th minute. 30 touches, 75% pass accuracy,  7 shots, 2 shot on target, 2 key passes. 1 assist WhoScored.com rating of 7.54.

Lamare Bogarde (Bristol Rovers) 15th/24 [League One]
Home to Portsmouth (0-2) - Played 90 minutes. 54 touches, 79.5% pass accuracy, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.21.

Ben Chrisene (Kilmarnock) 10th/12 [Scottish Premiership]
Home to St. Johnstone (1-1) - Not in the squad (torn medial ligament).

Keinan Davis (Watford) 10th/24 [Championship]
Home to Wigan (1-1) - Played 90 minutes. 35 touches, 90.5% pass accuracy, 1 shot on target, 1 key pass, 1 goal. Booked. WhoScored.com rating of 7.34.

 

Kortney Hause (Watford) 10th/24 [Championship]
Home to Wigan (1-1) - Not in the squad (knee injury).

Tim Iroegbunam (QPR) 19th/24 [Championship]
Home to SHA (0-1) - Played 90 minutes. 51 touches, 77.4% pass accuracy, 2 shots, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.62.

Filip Marschall (Gateshead) 21st/24th [National League]
Home to Torquay (1-1) - Played 90 minutes

Marvelous Nakamba (Luton Town) 4th/24 [Championship]
Away at Sunderland (1-1) - Played 90 minutes. 56 touches, 65.8% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 7.53.

Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Cardiff City) 21st/24 [Championship]
Away at Rotherham (0-1) [Abandoned - Rain] - Scored but won't be official due to abandonment. Thanks @useless

 

Aaron Ramsey (Middlesbrough) 3rd/24 [Championship]
Home to Preston (4-0) - Came on in the 81st minute. 10 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.13.

Morgan Sanson (Strasbourg) 15th/20 [Ligue 1]
Home to Auxerre (2-0) - Played 90 minutes. 48 touches, 73.3% pass accuracy, 3 shots, 1 key pass, 1 assist. WhoScored.com rating of 7.29.

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Wesley (Levante UD) 4th/22 [Segunda Division]

Away at Malaga (0-0) - Came on in the 80th minute. 6 touches, 50% pass accuracy. Booked. SofaScore.com rating of 6.5.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Hornso
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[one_ian_taylor]

Most successful  weekend ever for our loanees? Pretty good showing all round

[Hornso]

3 hours ago, one_ian_taylor said:

Most successful  weekend ever for our loanees? Pretty good showing all round

There have been some good ones since I've been doing it, but this might be the best in terms of quality (the Championship & Ligue 1 as opposed to say League 2 & the Supa Liga).

[rodders0223]

Nakamba stats are never going to be good. I don't watch Luton play but I presume it's very 'effective' football. Nakamba had usually 60 or 70% completed passes , he's more than capable of racking up 85% and 90% in the Championship in the right system keeping it ticking. I am guessing Luton aren't playing Rodgers ball.

As said above, unless you're rattling in shots, taking set pieces or makign key passes you're really going to struggle to hit a good rating on whoscored. It's bollocks really.

[fightoffyour]

Pure class that Davis goal

[Hornso]

Summary from Tuesday night

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) 1st/24 [League One]
Away at Accrington Stanley (0-2) - Substituted in the 73rd minute. 34 touches, 47.8% pass accuracy, 1 shot on target. WhoScored.com rating of 6.73.

 

Plymouth go top by two points but 2nd place Wednesday have two games in hand. Plymouth are five points ahead of Ipswich in 3rd who have one game in hand.

[Kingman]

Anyone know the deal with the loan window? 

Just seen that Derby have loaned a player to Scunthorpe today till the end of the season! 

[Hornso]

1 hour ago, Kingman said:

Anyone know the deal with the loan window? 

Just seen that Derby have loaned a player to Scunthorpe today till the end of the season! 

Apparently the National League has a transfer window that closes in "late March". I wasn't aware of it either.

[Hornso]

Summary from the weekend - International football is rubbish

Louie Barry (Salford City) 6th/24 [League Two]
Away at Stevenage (1-3) - Came on in the 84th minute. 5 touches, 66.7% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 5.96.

Salford currently in the playoff spots by four points but have played an additional game. Sit five points behind Stevenage (who they just defeated) who are in 3rd but Stevenage also have a game in hand.

Filip Marschall (Gateshead) 20th/24th [National League]
Away at Aldershot (2-3) - Played 90 minutes.

For the first time since arriving in January, Gateshead are now out of the relegation zone on goal difference. They also have two games in hand so may be able to get themselves into midtable soon if their current form continues.

Wesley (Levante UD) 4th/22 [Segunda Division]
Away at Racing de Santander (0-1) - Came on in the 79th minute. 4 touches, 50% pass accuracy, 1 key pass. SofaScore.com rating of 6.6.

Levante are comfortably in the play-off places, four points off top with nine games to play.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Hornso

[Hornso]

Summary from Tuesday night

Filip Marschall (Gateshead) 20th/24th [National League]
Home to Dagenham & Redbridge (3-0) - Played 90 minutes.

Since arriving Gateshead are averaging 1.58 ppg in the league (12 games) as opposed to the 0.84 ppg they were averaging over their first 25 games.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Hornso

[Hornso]

Summary from the weekend - Should have started Finn...

Cameron Archer (Middlesbrough) 3rd/24 [Championship]
Away at Huddersfield (4-2) - Substituted in the 64th minute. 32 touches, 82.6% pass accuracy, 1 shot, 4 key passes, 1 assist. WhoScored.com rating of 6.71.

 

Finn Azaz (Plymouth Argyle) [EFL Trophy - Final]
Versus Bolton (0-4) - Came on in the 54th minute. 13 touches, 70% pass accuracy, 1 key pass. SofaScore.com rating of 6.5.

Louie Barry (Salford City) 7th/24 [League Two]
Away at Stockport (1-1) - Came on in the 62nd minute. 8 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.17.

Ben Chrisene (Kilmarnock) 10th/12 [Scottish Premiership]
Home to Hearts (2-1) - Not in the squad (torn medial ligament).

Keinan Davis (Watford) 11th/24 [Championship]
Away at Luton (2-0) - Substituted in the 68th minute. 31 touches, 68.4% pass accuracy, WhoScored.com rating of 6.60.

Kortney Hause (Watford) 11th/24 [Championship]
Away at Luton (2-0) - Not in the squad (knee injury).

Tim Iroegbunam (QPR) 19th/24 [Championship]
Away at Wigan (1-0) - Not in the squad. (injury)

Filip Marschall (Gateshead) [FA Trophy - Semi Final]
Home to Barnet (p3-3) - Unused substitute.

Marvelous Nakamba (Luton Town) 4th/24 [Championship]
Home to Watford (2-0) - Played 90 minutes. 56 touches, 81.8% pass accuracy, 1 shot, 2 key passes. WhoScored.com rating of 7.78.

Jaden Philogene-Bidace (Cardiff City) 21st/24 [Championship]
Home to Swansea (2-3) - Played 90 minutes. 47 touches, 69.6% pass accuracy, 1 shot on target, 1 goal. WhoScored.com rating of 7.74.

 

Aaron Ramsey (Middlesbrough) 3rd/24 [Championship]
Away at Huddersfield (4-2) - Played 90 minutes. 71 touches, 83% pass accuracy, 6 shots, 1 shot on target, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 7.18.

Morgan Sanson (Strasbourg) 16th/20 [Ligue 1]
Away at Monaco (4-3) - Played 90 minutes. 59 touches, 83.3% pass accuracy, 3 shots, 1 shot on target, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.73.

Wesley (Levante UD) 4th/22 [Segunda Division]
Home to Real Zaragoza (1-1) - Unused substitute.