Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Made In Aston said: If only we had owners that could arrange for all our unwanted players to be brought by the Saudi Pro League for 'market value'. So glad we don’t… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Zatman said: They have money but they are not stupid. They got a much better deal in Sanson We are the Only stupid team to oay Digne this salary Don’t blame the club for SG and CP’s ineptitude… or even NSWE… they just put their trust in the wrong people, from a footballing perspective. Rectified now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, villan95 said: We've probably got the only players turning down moves to Saudi Arabia Maybe, but one of those is Diaby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Don’t blame the club for SG and CP’s ineptitude… or even NSWE… they just put their trust in the wrong people, from a footballing perspective. Rectified now. I only slightly blame NSWE for letting Purslow go wild hiring his bestie but I still love them Luckily we cleaned up that mess, sacking the 2 clowns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: I only slightly blame NSWE for letting Purslow go wild hiring his bestie but I still love them Luckily we cleaned up that mess, sacking the 2 clowns SG is such a blemish on our club can we wipe him from our records and memories? Sending Digne and Coutinho on their ways will help out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Jas10 said: SG is such a blemish on our club can we wipe him from our records and memories? Sending Digne and Coutinho on their ways will help out glad someone is admitting their disdain for Digne and Coutinho is based on their connection to Gerrard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, grantholtgolazo said: glad someone is admitting their disdain for Digne and Coutinho is based on their connection to Gerrard Wow, quite an overreaction there matey… Where did I show or express disdain for Digne and Coutinho?????? Don’t dislike or insult either of them… but I do see them as expensive mistakes or a waste of funds… Please don’t throw me in this “agenda” or put words in my mouth Edited August 19, 2023 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Wow, quite an overreaction there matey… Where did I show or express disdain for Digne and Coutinho?????? Don’t dislike or insult either of them… but I do see them as expensive mistakes or a waste of funds… Please don’t throw me in this “agenda” or put words in my mouth just read your post a page back which seemed to say Digne wasn't a contributor to the team, that combined with your desire to send him and Phil on their way because you don't want to think about SG, not something id imagine someone saying about a player they liked but apologies if I'm off base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, grantholtgolazo said: just read your post a page back which seemed to say Digne wasn't a contributor to the team, that combined with your desire to send him and Phil on their way because you don't want to think about SG, not something id imagine someone saying about a player they liked but apologies if I'm off base. I don’t overly like them, I don’t dislike them. I think you’ve overreacted to a basic mention or point based on a viewpoint you’ve been maintaining… My only disdain or dislike was for SG… I hated his tenure… Guess you could take it as “tongue in cheek”… it was a joke in that selling Digne and Coutinho would help in erasing the memory of SG. Didn’t actually say anything derogatory or insulting about each player. As I’ve said before… some people take things far too seriously here and don’t consider a sense of humour… My opinions on the players are that they have tried to give good service… but have been poor value. Coutinho has been injured and unavailable too often, cannot handle the demands of the PL… he has skill and technique to offer but has been largely ineffective… of course, like most fans, I would like to see any player who joins/plays for us thrive… but you have to be realistic and form your own opinion based on past evidence (whether or not anyone agrees). Simply put, he has not been worth the financial outlay and never will he really… it would benefit the club to offload him and bring in a better option - at least imo. But I’d be happy and pleasantly surprised if he could “show” or offer something on a consistent basis if he hangs around. Digne… has given us decent service but never really impressed or wowed and has failed to live up to the hype/expectation and the considerable financial outlay. It’s easy to see that he is not a first choice or even a favoured player for Unai… we brought in Moreno who is far better suited and far superior. And now we are after Acuna… Huge wages (whatever the accurate number is, it’s definitely over 100k a week… anywhere between 120-165k depending on sources) and a big transfer fee for someone who has not really impressed or lived up to any sort of expectation. He hasn’t been shit though… So… there you go…. I have no hate for them… but… we can and will do better. As for SG… I don’t have a single positive word to say about him. Edited August 19, 2023 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I don’t overly like them, I don’t dislike them. I think you’ve overreacted to a basic mention or point based on a viewpoint you’ve been maintaining… My only disdain or dislike was for SG… I hated his tenure… Guess you could take it as “tongue in cheek”… it was a joke in that selling Digne and Coutinho would help in erasing the memory of SG. Didn’t actually say anything derogatory or insulting about each player. As I’ve said before… some people take things far too seriously here and don’t consider a sense of humour… My opinions on the players are that they have tried to give good service… but have been poor value. Coutinho has been injured and unavailable too often, cannot handle the demands of the PL… he has skill and technique to offer but has been largely ineffective… of course, like most fans, I would like to see any player who joins/plays for us thrive… but you have to be realistic and form your own opinion based on past evidence (whether or not anyone agrees). Simply put, he has not been worth the financial outlay and never will he really… it would benefit the club to offload him and bring in a better option - at least imo. But I’d be happy and pleasantly surprised if he could “show” or offer something on a consistent basis if he hangs around. Digne… has given us decent service but never really impressed or wowed and has failed to live up to the hype/expectation and the considerable financial outlay. It’s easy to see that he is not a first choice or even a favoured player for Unai… we brought in Moreno who is far better suited and far superior. And now we are after Acuna… Huge wages (whatever the accurate number is, it’s definitely over 100k a week… anywhere between 120-165k depending on sources) and a big transfer fee for someone who has not really impressed or lived up to any sort of expectation. He hasn’t been shit though… So… there you go…. I have no hate for them… but… we can and will do better. As for SG… I don’t have a single positive word to say about him. my apologies, i didn't read it as tongue in cheek. appreciate the thoughtful response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, grantholtgolazo said: my apologies, i didn't read it as tongue in cheek. appreciate the thoughtful response. No probs… but I was forced to explain Mate, I don’t think too many have much of an agenda here. We just have differing opinions and disagree… some people get more upset and annoyed about that than others. A bit of chill helps and goes a long way. It doesn’t matter if we have opposing views… I’m sorry, but I can’t agree with your notion that people criticise Digne and Coutinho purely because of the manager that wanted them. We also signed Kamara and Carlos back then… Bouba is one of our best players and didn’t cost us a transfer fee. We need to be fair with the points we make… I just covered my opinions on Digne and Coutinho there for you. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your weekend and let’s thrash Everton! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: I’m sorry, but I can’t agree with your notion that people criticise Digne and Coutinho purely because of the manager that wanted them. We also signed Kamara and Carlos back then… Bouba is one of our best players and didn’t cost us a transfer fee. Agreed, I'd never say it's purely down to SG, though I believe for some it's a mitigating factor. Finances plays a large part, I don't focus on the accounting aspects much but I understand it's part of the big picture and more front of mind for many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, grantholtgolazo said: Agreed, I'd never say it's purely down to SG, though I believe for some it's a mitigating factor. Finances plays a large part, I don't focus on the accounting aspects much but I understand it's part of the big picture and more front of mind for many Different ways of looking at it… maybe this is a very simplistic one… if we waste funds on big fees and high wages for ineffective players… it hinders and harms our ability to bring in actual and many effective ones… harms our chances of success and progression… We don’t have unlimited funds and do have budgets to manage, according to our revenue streams… and FFP to unfortunately take into account and adhere to… We have to be intelligent and sensible… It’s why I find it nonsensical when people say things like “it’s not my money” It’s your club though!!! We should want it to be both sustainable and successful… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Zatman said: They have money but they are not stupid. They got a much better deal in Sanson We are the Only stupid team to pay Digne this salary They did have Barkley and Aaron Ramsey in their squad...they are a a little bit out there with their ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Why is everyone so convinced we're selling/trying to sell Digne. Pre Match thread is full of it. Where has this come from? Seems to be different twitter people saying different things that suggests made up bullshit to me. Edited August 20, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: Why is everyone so convinced we're selling/trying to sell Digne. Pre Match thread is full of it. Where has this come from? We are strongly rumoured to have Acuna lined up as a new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, Captain_Townsend said: We are strongly rumoured to have Acuna lined up as a new signing. A replacement or bolstering the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: A replacement or bolstering the squad? Well Moreno, Digne and Acuña, all senior left backs on big money, would seem a bit OTT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Interesting. Looks like Digne would much rather stay than go to Saudi - playing for the shirt today and putting in some world class crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 18/08/2023 at 00:40, Tomaszk said: No, no. I've watched him fail to live up to £150k a week near-on every game for us. Maybe you have seen those performances, I dunno. On 18/08/2023 at 07:36, Zatman said: Pound for pound he is one of the worst signings in club history and a goal against United doesn't make him any better. He isnt a bad guy but he isnt a good player Evident that the first thing the new manager did was sign a player to play his position and improve us On 18/08/2023 at 07:40, Zatman said: He is poor, its why we are signing a left back for the 2nd window running He's absolutely bummed Everton so far that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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