sir_gary_cahill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Awol said: He’s a child. He’s an excellent young player with a great future in the game, very few are ready at 16 years old, from what I’ve seen of him I think he could be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, PerryBarrPet said: Be careful what you wish for. Are you old enough to remember Jimmy Brown? No but I have heard of him, tell me more if you want to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: No but I have heard of him, tell me more if you want to Jimmy Brown joined our youth set up (mid 1960s) when he left school in Scotland. He had been captain of Scotland schoolboys football and was seen as the next ‘great’ to come out of Scotland. We were in a desperate situation then so he was called on to make his debut just before his 16th birthday - I was there and he did look good. He was then played again and seemed to be treated as a regular first teamer. He burned out very quickly and eventually left us. No one can be sure that he would have been a ‘great’ but early exposure did him no favours. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, PerryBarrPet said: Jimmy Brown joined our youth set up (mid 1960s) when he left school in Scotland. He had been captain of Scotland schoolboys football and was seen as the next ‘great’ to come out of Scotland. We were in a desperate situation then so he was called on to make his debut just before his 16th birthday - I was there and he did look good. He was then played again and seemed to be treated as a regular first teamer. He burned out very quickly and eventually left us. No one can be sure that he would have been a ‘great’ but early exposure did him no favours. Some just take to it, I think Feeney could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, sir_gary_cahill said: Some just take to it, I think Feeney could Why do you think this? The risk is great therefore many in football believe much care should be taken over youth development. But if you have sound, substantial, reasons please share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Pissflaps said: That's backwards ass logic though. To improve surely you sell Hause not Ming's. Then you get Botman or whoever to pressure Ming's and Konsa properly. That's called improvement. Every few days people want to sell Mings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, PerryBarrPet said: Why do you think this? The risk is great therefore many in football believe much care should be taken over youth development. But if you have sound, substantial, reasons please share. I’ve seen him quite a few times for our u18s and u23s and he just looks a great talent. He plays with such a mature head for someone of 16 years old. The risk is great, yes but you could say that about any young player. He’s so calm and composed and he reads the game so well for someone so young. The press reported that when Feeney was at Fleetwood Town that Man United wanted and he has captained England at under 16 level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I’ve seen him quite a few times for our u18s and u23s and he just looks a great talent. He plays with such a mature head for someone of 16 years old. The risk is great, yes but you could say that about any young player. He’s so calm and composed and he reads the game so well for someone so young. The press reported that when Feeney was at Fleetwood Town that Man United wanted and he has captained England at under 16 level All this shows is that he should have a good future in football. Looking good at the u18 & u23 levels does not mean he is ready for the first team now. At 16 years old he is not physically mature and in our Premier League you need physical strength, athleticism and skill. At 16 he is still growing physically and therefore his athleticism is developing also. He certainly has skill but over exposure at senior level - before he is is physically and athletically ready - is a serious risk. I think he is too good to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Hey "unnamed CDM/LB/CB" would you like to play with Coutinho? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I’ve seen him quite a few times for our u18s and u23s and he just looks a great talent. He plays with such a mature head for someone of 16 years old. The risk is great, yes but you could say that about any young player. He’s so calm and composed and he reads the game so well for someone so young. The press reported that when Feeney was at Fleetwood Town that Man United wanted and he has captained England at under 16 level Just hopes he manages to get rid of the same lapse of concentration at times similar to the one Mings has. He looks the real deal, but occasionally does not pay attention to his surroundings. Only 16 thou, so I do not hold it against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Hey "unnamed CDM/LB/CB" would you like to play with Coutinho? There should be a queue of plays interested in joining us. Not just in this window either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 im not sure what our salary position is, but do you think we might need to offload a few players now to buy a LB & DM? (after signing Coutinho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: im not sure what our salary position is, but do you think we might need to offload a few players now to buy a LB & DM? (after signing Coutinho) Coutinho has cost us (at this point) around £6 million. That doesn't even buy you a Championship player these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: im not sure what our salary position is, but do you think we might need to offload a few players now to buy a LB & DM? (after signing Coutinho) No because of the Jack sale we have a 3 year window where we can essentially offset player costs against it. So Ings is 25m on 3 year deal, total cost ~ 44m. Say we are paying 7m for the 6m and then exercise Coutinho clause and buy him for 10m and pay him 200k a week on a 2 year contract. That comes to another ~ 38m Jack was sold for 100m and his wages for his new contract offer would have been another 30m over the three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 For arguably the biggest signing in this modern era we all appear pretty quiet regardless of whether its a loan. He may not even live up to the hype but irrespective im very excited nonetheless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Amazing getting Coutinho in and hopefully SG can get him firing! My worry is that this may be at the expense of filling the defensive / defensive midfield gaps we have As a minimum we need something at CB, FB and ideally DCM, and ideally players who will strengthen the first XI not just add depth It will be interesting to see how this pans out - do we make do with what we’ve got, take a look at Courtinho and then make our moves in the summer or do we bring in 2 or 3 more now. Europe looks a long shot from where we are this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, RicRic said: For arguably the biggest signing in this modern era we all appear pretty quiet regardless of whether its a loan. He may not even live up to the hype but irrespective im very excited nonetheless Quiet ? We’ve hit 129 pages in 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Quiet ? We’ve hit 129 pages in 3 days. Yet I havent seen one fish pun... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 09/12/2021 at 08:08, punkiller1981 said: Not a chance. A 29 year old on a huge salary that his last 2 teams hardly used him! Sounds like an awful signing to me for anyone. It’s his type of signing that showed me that Barca have no clue what they are doing and just pick names without any thought of how they will be used or fit into the group Let’s hope it goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danishlad Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 08/12/2021 at 23:10, Danishlad said: Coutinho? You heard it here first- 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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