Genie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Problem is we’re not vaccinated for all the variants that are out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Genie said: Problem is we’re not vaccinated for all the variants that are out there. Nor will we ever be, it's almost impossible 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted March 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Problem is we’re not vaccinated for all the variants that are out there. True, but what if it constantly mutates into new variants every year? Do we stay locked down for 50 years? 100 years? There has to be a point where the lockdown causes more harm than opening up. I don't think we are far away from that point. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 hours ago, sidcow said: Looks like France reported 70,00 + new cases there yesterday. We only did that a couple of times and that was right at the very height in December/January. Don't know if there was some reporting anomaly for that, but you would imagine their death rates are going to get scary in a few weeks. It was something I was looking over earlier in the weekend. I noticed the BBC website doesn’t really do European coverage in any serious way anymore, so I was on english translation of a couple of French news sites. Looks like yesterday (or maybe Friday) there were 36,000 new cases just in Paris. Over 90,000 hospitalised in greater Paris. I have a friends in their 50’s that have a daughter doing the au pair gig in Paris. They haven’t seen each other since Christmas 2019, I don’t think anyone is under any illusion they’ll be meeting up any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Over 90,000 hospitalised in greater Paris. That’s horrendous 40,000 in hospital across the UK had the NHS at breaking point. How can they handle that many people? Do they have a version of the Nightingales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Flu mutates every year we don't lock down because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Genie said: That’s horrendous 40,000 in hospital across the UK had the NHS at breaking point. How can they handle that many people? Do they have a version of the Nightingales? I don’t know how that works, or what the threshold is for hospitalisation. But I do know they are ‘full’ for the entire region and are shipping people out of the region to hospital beds. I thought it was interesting to see a speech from Macron where (in translation) he described ‘the British virus, which originated in Britain’. When what we would say it was identified in Kent, not originated in Kent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, chrisp65 said: I don’t know how that works, or what the threshold is for hospitalisation. But I do know they are ‘full’ for the entire region and are shipping people out of the region to hospital beds. I thought it was interesting to see a speech from Macron where (in translation) he described ‘the British virus, which originated in Britain’. When what we would say it was identified in Kent, not originated in Kent. Yep, it’s fuel for their fire unfortunately. Boris talks about “our friends in Europe” and they talk about us like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 So this is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Yep, it’s fuel for their fire unfortunately. Boris talks about “our friends in Europe” and they talk about us like that. And Johnson is nothing if not a sincere straight bat only on it to help others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: So this is going well. It will be big news is they do, they’ve threatened a few times and not followed through... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 EU acting like words removed. Good job Boris is ordering more nukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 If the EU does go through with blocking the vaccine then it's the kind of headline that will surely lead to worse events. The British media really got behind Brexit when David Cameron went for concessions and was rejected. I shudder to think what comes next in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Genie said: Yep, it’s fuel for their fire unfortunately. Boris talks about “our friends in Europe” and they talk about us like that. Johnson is full of shit and his words mean f all. His actions speak louder than his words and if he was judged on them he'd be nowhere near number 10. As for the EU they have f'd up and are now trying to cover their own arses. Edited March 21, 2021 by markavfc40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Genie said: Problem is we’re not vaccinated for all the variants that are out there. 2 hours ago, Xela said: True, but what if it constantly mutates into new variants every year? Do we stay locked down for 50 years? 100 years? There has to be a point where the lockdown causes more harm than opening up. I don't think we are far away from that point. Once all adults have been vaccinated, what possible better situation is there, vis a vis covid? How could we be in a better position? I can think of one way; there could be an over-the-counter medicine that cured it. Other than that, vaccinating the population is as good as it's going to get. People who talk about still needing restrictions after that are not proposing an actual end to ever needing restrictions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I think the outrageous stance of the EU over vaccinations should give the government something to think about in terms of food and energy security. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think the outrageous stance of the EU over vaccinations should give the government something to think about in terms of food and energy security. No probs, we’re having more nukes. They’ve done a detailed analysis of all the security issues and what could possibly go wrong and who could hit what weak spot. The verdict was, more nukes. Oh, and do more business with corrupt regimes that don’t comply with basic human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, bickster said: I don’t see any potential issues with using only one location for the whole country to test reopening what millions of 18-30 year olds have been desperate to do for a year. None at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, a m ole said: I don’t see any potential issues with using only one location for the whole country to test reopening what millions of 18-30 year olds have been desperate to do for a year. None at all. Well yes quite. Hotels will be booked up in seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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