rodders0223 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Needs to be more Scottish. Rough and ready. 110%. Roll up your sleeves type. Not afraid to get his shorts dirty type. A proper man's man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Needs to be more Scottish. Rough and ready. 110%. Roll up your sleeves type. Not afraid to get his shorts dirty type. A proper man's man. Dress like a turkey as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Needs to be more Scottish. Rough and ready. 110%. Roll up your sleeves type. Not afraid to get his shorts dirty type. A proper man's man. Rubs his cock on live television type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 In the words of Joni Mitchell/counting crows, “don’t it always seem to go, that you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 If isn't signing a contract then he can pass off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 03/04/2022 at 11:54, sne said: I quite like Sanson and think he's done well for the most part when given a chance. But dropping Luiz, the only player who is comfortable with the ball during buildup was a moronic idea. It should have been McGinn and or Ramsey on the bench. Mings hoofing to Bailey & Coutinho is not building from the back. Yesterday showcased exactly why Luiz is so important. We might need a more defense oriented player next to him if he stays but we we need him or someone new who is comfortable with the ball to pick it up from the defenders if we pretend to have any type of intelligent possession. Gerrard/Beale not realising or understanding (?) this is a concern. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 02/04/2022 at 17:14, samjp26 said: He clearly rates him but he said no talks have began, he’s been very clear about that. I think he rates him but I also think he wants a different type of player in midfield He does rate him as as soon as he was available for him, he was playing in the 8 role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 01/04/2022 at 22:11, DaveAV1 said: It’s all well and good when ‘t sun’s shining’ but could he perform on a wet January evening in Rochdale? if he could close down and win the ball back, equal to that skill, we would be ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 03/04/2022 at 21:45, sparrow1988 said: In the words of Joni Mitchell/counting crows, “don’t it always seem to go, that you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone” That could be said in opposite meanings, too. Stephen Ireland was a good example of the opposite..as was Djemba,djemba We have had many players over the years, that we have tried profusely with and only when they left and did nothing, did we realise, we was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sparrow1988 Posted April 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2022 Just now, TRO said: That could be said in opposite meanings, too. Stephen Ireland was a good example of the opposite..as was Djemba,djemba We have had many players over the years, that we have tried profusely with and only when they left and did nothing, did we realise, we was wrong. Team goals conceded per 90 is the lowest of all our current midfielders. I'm not saying that he is the best midfielder we could possibly get, but there is a correlation between Doug being on the pitch and us conceding fewer goals. We have a goal difference of +8 with Doug on the pitch. Our actual goal difference is 0. Go figure. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Team goals conceded per 90 is the lowest of all our current midfielders. I'm not saying that he is the best midfielder we could possibly get, but there is a correlation between Doug being on the pitch and us conceding fewer goals. We have a goal difference of +8 with Doug on the pitch. Our actual goal difference is 0. Go figure. I am not suggesting he is a bad player....but the opponent plays a part in those stats too. Stats only tell part of the story, the other part is dealt with by the eye test....Go figure. Edited April 8, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Team goals conceded per 90 is the lowest of all our current midfielders. I'm not saying that he is the best midfielder we could possibly get, but there is a correlation between Doug being on the pitch and us conceding fewer goals. We have a goal difference of +8 with Doug on the pitch. Our actual goal difference is 0. Go figure. Easily our best midfielder in recent weeks and we are much shitter defensively without him which was proven again last week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Zatman said: Easily our best midfielder in recent weeks and we are much shitter defensively without him which was proven again last week Thats not too difficult when the rest have been dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, PaulC said: Thats not too difficult when the rest have been dire. Yet Luiz is the one constantly criticised, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Yet Luiz is the one constantly criticised, McGinn gets it too. Ramsey is the one that understandably gets away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, TRO said: I am not suggesting he is a bad player....but the opponent plays a part in those stats too. Stats only tell part of the story, the other part is dealt with by the eye test....Go figure. I used both stats and the eye test. Mentioned the shape being much better when he plays. There were also days where we didn’t concede with Luiz on the pitch however conceded after his substitution against the same opposition. What in your opinion is the reason why we concede more per 90 without Luiz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Yet Luiz is the one constantly criticised, Been starting to wonder if this summer, we should sacrifice/sell one of the Centeal Midfielders, sign a DM of course, and play him as a number 8 finally. As you know, he gets pelters from me in the DM role, but I do think he is a good footballer overall. Midfield of say DM holding | Luiz CM | Sanson LM | JJ RM ? And Gallagher into that mix and . Lol Not sure who to sell though, Sanson, McGinn? Or do we simply drop them to the bench to fight. Obvious JJ can be benched too. That being said, I have a feeling Luiz has already made up his mind to be off anyway. Edited April 8, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Will be interesting to see if Luiz gets back in to the starting 11 today. He has been as poor as anyone else in the midfield but is all we have at the moment, until Nakamba, who was improving under Steven Gerrards, gets fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, STO said: Will be interesting to see if Luiz gets back in to the starting 11 today. He has been as poor as anyone else in the midfield but is all we have at the moment, until Nakamba, who was improving under Steven Gerrards, gets fit. He hasn't though. The stats and the eye test actually back him up. Coutinho is shit when Luiz is off the pitch or out of the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 20 hours ago, sparrow1988 said: I used both stats and the eye test. Mentioned the shape being much better when he plays. There were also days where we didn’t concede with Luiz on the pitch however conceded after his substitution against the same opposition. What in your opinion is the reason why we concede more per 90 without Luiz? Perhaps, the best of a bad bunch....meaning we haven't got a quality defensive minded midfielder,in the squad outside of Nakamba ( who has been subject to a lengthy injury, but was unfancied before by many) so it's difficult to measure. no amount of redeployment or permutaion change will negate that....as we have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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