Zatman Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: What's going on with Germany? They did well to pull a victory from a losing position at half time, they're still great going forward but defensively they look shot. If Sweden had any pace they'd have scored more than 1. Neuer isnt fit. Usually he is flying out intercepting long balls but not this tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Neuer isnt fit. Usually he is flying out intercepting long balls but not this tournament It can't just be that, can it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Sweden played a solid game against a once again under performing Germany. Paid the price for being overly cautious when they got the man advantage. Instead of trying to control the game (not go full retard in attack mind) they just stayed in their own goal area. Also a bit strange sub bringing on another striker (Kiese-Thelin) if the plan wasn't to go for it. Would have been much better served to bring on a MF. Harsh way to lose, but only themselves (and the ref/VAR) to blame. Cautious manager being overly cautious, oddly familiar that... Still a good(ish) performance, just need to beat Mexico now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Timo Werner is looking absolute shite, they need to drop him and they also need to start Brandt who has looked excellent in both of his substitute appearances. Rudy getting injured is good for them as well as he's the epitomy of average and they looked much better with Gundogan in there. Finally, Draxler needs to be kicked into a touch, he's a player I just don't get, average best describes him. Edited June 24, 2018 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Plenty of German fans on another forum pointing out they lack a proper DM for this tournament, Khederia played like a drunk the other day so obviously not fit and Kroos obviously can't do that job. Looks like someone like Bastian Schweinstiger is a big loss for them along with Lahm so they lack those experienced heads in the team. Think Brazil will beat Germany tbh. I know they haven't been great themselves but think any 3 out of Neymar, Firmino, Jesus and Coutinho will cause Germany endless problems on the counter attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Timo Werner is looking absolute shite, they need to drop him and they also need to start Brandt who has looked excellent in both of his substitute appearances. Rudy getting injured is good for them as well as he's the epitomy of average and they looked much better with Gundogan in there. Finally, Draxler needs to be kicked into a touch, he's a player I just don't get, average best describes him. incredibly harsh on Werner, the midfield did nothing to find his runs or get the ball into the box for 135 mins of their games. He comes into a wider position at half time yesterday, gets on the ball, goes direct and gets an assist and fouled for the winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 3 hours ago, a m ole said: incredibly harsh on Werner, the midfield did nothing to find his runs or get the ball into the box for 135 mins of their games. He comes into a wider position at half time yesterday, gets on the ball, goes direct and gets an assist and fouled for the winner. He's absolutely shocking in front of goal, they desperately need a number 9 who can deliver, it will hold them back this tournament. Werner's finishing has been absolutely pathetic. Yes good work out of the box but they have no shortage of players who can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: He's absolutely shocking in front of goal, they desperately need a number 9 who can deliver, it will hold them back this tournament. Werner's finishing has been absolutely pathetic. Yes good work out of the box but they have no shortage of players who can do that. how many chances has he had? that snap shot he put over the bar when he was offside? erm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Just now, a m ole said: how many chances has he had? that snap shot he put over the bar when he was offside? erm Several. And besides that he doesn't even get into good positions often enough. Edited June 24, 2018 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Several. And besides that he doesn't even get into good positions often enough. name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, a m ole said: name them. Pretty evident from their games so far, don't have to name them at all, how about your top up your Omega 3 intake so you improve your memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Pretty evident from their games so far, don't have to name them at all, how about your top up your Omega 3 intake so you improve your memory. you can’t 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 24, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2018 4 hours ago, a m ole said: how many chances has he had? that snap shot he put over the bar when he was offside? erm whoscored.com says he's had 2 shots all tournament. Which is a problem in itself I guess, but certainly doesn't suggest he's missed a load of chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 4 hours ago, a m ole said: you can’t You're asking someone to provide evidence for a subjective opinion, who has never claimed to be an absolute authority or a statistician. Prove him wrong if you're that bothered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 You can see why Lewindowski scores so many in the bundesleage, the whole system is crying out for a powerful striker to finish off the moves from the switching number 10s. Luckily for world football Germany don’t appear to have one of these strikers of their own. If they did, they’d be virtually unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: You're asking someone to provide evidence for a subjective opinion, who has never claimed to be an absolute authority or a statistician. Prove him wrong if you're that bothered. what? He said he’s had “several” chances and the finishing for them has been “pathetic”. That’s not subjective. I simply asked him to describe the chances. How can I prove he had no chances other than to say he had no chances? my point is clearly how can you make those judgements off no evidence, and if you have it, show it. burden of proof isn’t mine Edited June 24, 2018 by a m ole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: You can see why Lewindowski scores so many in the bundesleage, the whole system is crying out for a powerful striker to finish off the moves from the switching number 10s. Luckily for world football Germany don’t appear to have one of these strikers of their own. If they did, they’d be virtually unplayable Its strange that they struggle to produce a centre forward. Many times it was just Klose called up and a few false 9s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Feel sorry for the manager who has to shake his hand after the next match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Sweden, being probably the most predictable and easily scouted team in the tournament will almost certainly play the way we always do, using the same players we always do. doesn't mean we're easily beaten as it is a hard working collective. Sadly our x-factor Emil Forsberg has been performing well below par leaving us with little or no creativity and drive. Still, if manager Janne Andersson can avoid making those uncharacteristic tactical errors and substitutions that cost us against Germany there is still a faint chance we can beat Mexico. Not holding much hope thou as we need our best players to be at their best, and so far they have not been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 This group could end up a bit of a mess if results go a certain way and it would then have to be decided by bookings/fair play. If mexico beat sewden 1-0 & Korea beat germany 1-0 then mexico would be on 9 points with the other 3 all on 3 points, all with -1 goal difference and all scored 2 and conceeded 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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