Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2018 The newspapers this morning are embarrassing. We didn't knock Germany out. I'm sure they'll get over it seeing as they won the last one and it would be no surprise if they won the next one. It's a bit like Blues fans laughing at Villa when we go out of a competition. Laugh it up, you're still pointlessly shit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I genuinely don't understand the celebration of Germany being knocked out. Amusement, sure. Enjoying upsets, sure. Actually celebrating? Pathetic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, bobzy said: I genuinely don't understand the celebration of Germany being knocked out. Amusement, sure. Enjoying upsets, sure. Actually celebrating? Pathetic. I only saw the BBC and they were so smug about it. As if Germany was the only obstacle England had to win the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 28, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, bobzy said: I genuinely don't understand the celebration of Germany being knocked out. Amusement, sure. Enjoying upsets, sure. Actually celebrating? Pathetic. This widespread mocking nature in football is something I’m finding myself more and more averse to these days. That Fox Sports Brazil tweet (“hahahaha”.....etc) is fairly embarrassing. All the talk of “revenge” that accompanied it too. I could maybe understand it if Germany had cheated against Brazil four years ago, but they didn’t. To my recollection, one the German players (I forget which) said afterwards they were aware of the sheer disarray Brazil were in at halftime and didn’t want to showboat to embarrass them further. You know, sportsmanship like? Obviously I know that taking joy in another team’s defeat isn’t exactly new. But I find a lot of the humour and celebration quite petty. Maybe it’s because I’m getting older and my tolerance for this sort of stuff is diminishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted June 28, 2018 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2018 TBQH I don't understand people not understanding. Football is extremely tribal and built on rivalries, and yes a healthy amount of schadenfreude goes with the territory. 'Laughing' at other teams' misfortune is part and parcel of the game. It always has been. I can understand non-football fans not understanding it, but football fans know fine well how it all works. So when I hear a football fan being fauxtraged at other fans laughing at rivals, I just see it as them seizing on a manufactured opportunity to lord it over people from some artificial moral high ground. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 28, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BOF said: TBQH I don't understand people not understanding. Football is extremely tribal and built on rivalries, and yes a healthy amount of schadenfreude goes with the territory. 'Laughing' at other teams' misfortune is part and parcel of the game. It always has been. I can understand non-football fans not understanding it, but football fans know fine well how it all works. So when I hear a football fan being fauxtraged at other fans laughing at rivals, I just see it as them seizing on a manufactured opportunity to lord it over people from some artificial moral high ground. I understand it perfectly. I just don’t particularly enjoy it. Well, certainly nowhere near as much as I would have done in the past anyway. But hey, each to their own. Edit - my initial post did say “I could maybe understand it....”, to be fair. So to clarify, I do get why Brazil might revel in Germany going out, but I think it’s a bit petty, especially when it wasn’t Brazil who knocked them out. Edited June 28, 2018 by Shropshire Lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 28, 2018 Author Moderator Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, Shropshire Lad said: I understand it perfectly. I just don’t particularly enjoy it. Well, certainly nowhere near as much as I would have done in the past anyway. But hey, each to their own. Well that's it. I'm not one for gloating but I get why a gentle or not-so gentle ribbing is part of the deal. "You do you" as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 28, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, BOF said: Well that's it. I'm not one for gloating but I get why a gentle or not-so gentle ribbing is part of the deal. "You do you" as they say. Oh I do me all the time mate, no problems on that front 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, bobzy said: I genuinely don't understand the celebration of Germany being knocked out. Amusement, sure. Enjoying upsets, sure. Actually celebrating? Pathetic. Welcome to the small mind of your average England fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Edit. Edited June 28, 2018 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, bobzy said: I genuinely don't understand the celebration of Germany being knocked out. Amusement, sure. Enjoying upsets, sure. Actually celebrating? Pathetic. It's all a bit Blues fan for my taste. Lauding it up because they have had one bad world cup, when they have won it 4 times. The cringe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 28, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, BOF said: TBQH I don't understand people not understanding. Football is extremely tribal and built on rivalries, and yes a healthy amount of schadenfreude goes with the territory. 'Laughing' at other teams' misfortune is part and parcel of the game. It always has been. I can understand non-football fans not understanding it, but football fans know fine well how it all works. So when I hear a football fan being fauxtraged at other fans laughing at rivals, I just see it as them seizing on a manufactured opportunity to lord it over people from some artificial moral high ground. I get it, it's just this particular England vs Germany rivalry. I say rivalry, it's not a rivalry. It's a one sided thing. I don't think Germany give a **** about England. It just always strikes me as really small time from us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: It's all a bit Blues fan for my taste. Lauding it up because they have had one bad world cup, when they have won it 4 times. The cringe. This. If we were like, neck and neck in World Cups or something it'd be completely fair enough. But they're so far ahead it's embarrassing. Oh, they failed to make it out of the group for the first time since before the Second World War? Well, we've managed to make it out of the group one time in a row, so I guess we can really be smug about this eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, BOF said: TBQH I don't understand people not understanding. Football is extremely tribal and built on rivalries, and yes a healthy amount of schadenfreude goes with the territory. 'Laughing' at other teams' misfortune is part and parcel of the game. It always has been. I can understand non-football fans not understanding it, but football fans know fine well how it all works. So when I hear a football fan being fauxtraged at other fans laughing at rivals, I just see it as them seizing on a manufactured opportunity to lord it over people from some artificial moral high ground. I’m not fauxtraged at all - it’s just pathetic. There’s a world of difference between “laughing at other teams’ misfortune” and actively cheering on the opposition. Two things mentioned above are completely true - a] it’s incredibly small time and b] German fans would absolutely not give a shit. What’s the “rivalry” even over? Some wars 70 odd years ago? **** hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Welcome to the small mind of your average England fan. So other British nations don’t do it when England lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: So other British nations don’t do it when England lose? Well this is the exact reasons why the other home nations are happy when England lose. Not the team or the fans but the jingoistic media If England had beaten Germany then fair enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Ludwig Augustinsson who I've been banging on about us signing for 5 years in the EUROSPORT "Team of the group stage" Not that one swallow makes a summer, but oh what could have been. His next move will be to a big club for a big fee. Edited June 29, 2018 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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