Aston_Villan4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Looks parallel with the WHU player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Yeah, that’s not offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, bobzy said: Yeah, that’s not offside. Probably not, but those type of margins usually warrant lengthier VAR checks in this league. How many of those have been chalked off this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) There’s enough wrong with both PGMOL as an organisation and the standard of refereeing that we really don’t need to start suggesting they’re getting black and white offside decisions wrong on purpose too. Edited January 22, 2022 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Keyblade said: Probably not, but those type of margins usually warrant lengthier VAR checks in this league. How many of those have been chalked off this season? So the issue is that, despite Cavani being onside, there wasn’t enough of the thing we all hate? OK…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bobzy said: So the issue is that, despite Cavani being onside, there wasn’t enough of the thing we all hate? OK…. No, the issue is there's an inconsistency...one that seems heavily weighted in 1 direction for some odd reason. Getting discrete decisions right or wrong isn't the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Yeah I’d say that’s onside, the position of his hand is slightly questionable. But we have seen closer margins then that not given. It’s the inconsistency. Edited January 22, 2022 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Probably not, but those type of margins usually warrant lengthier VAR checks in this league. How many of those have been chalked off this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Aston_Villan4 said: I'm not disputing the decision itself, but questioning how they arrived to it. Seems pretty inconsistent that made a decision this close as quickly as they did, especially given the circumstances (last minute winner). If West Ham scored it instead, I suspect things would have played out slightly differently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I'm not disputing the decision itself, but questioning how they arrived to it. Seems pretty inconsistent that made a decision this close as quickly as they did, especially given the circumstances (last minute winner). If West Ham scored it instead, I suspect things would have played out slightly differently. It’s either offside or it isn’t. What are you arguing for here? Based on the image above it isn’t close to being offside either. Trick of perspective makes it look worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It’s either offside or it isn’t. What are you arguing for here? Based on the image above it isn’t close to being offside either. Trick of perspective makes it look worse. Pretty clear what I'm arguing there tbh. Obviously it's either offside or not, but it's never that cut and dry with our officials is it? Took them about 2 mins to determine Danny Ings wasn't offside at OT a couple of weeks ago despite it being pretty black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Pretty clear what I'm arguing there tbh. Obviously it's either offside or not, but it's never that cut and dry with our officials is it? Took them about 2 mins to determine Danny Ings wasn't offside at OT a couple of weeks ago despite it being pretty black and white. Very much so isn't. It's like arguing about whether the ball has gone out or not. It has or it hasn't. There are some cases where there are grey areas around whether players are interfering with play etc that slow things down, but there was none here so it is a quick, 'is he offside of not' decision. The drew lines, saw he wasn't and then gave the goal. There isn't a stick to beat VAR with here. What is your point? You want them to spend an equal amount of time looking at every offside decision regardless of whether it's necessary or not? Edited January 22, 2022 by YLN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I'm calling into question the inconsistency in the decisiveness, not the veracity of decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I'm calling into question the inconsistency in the decisiveness, not the veracity of decisions. Cool. Keep fighting the good fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, YLN said: Cool. Keep fighting the good fight Not even that serious. Just thinking out loud. It's kind of amusing how inconsistent they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Pretty clear what I'm arguing there tbh. Obviously it's either offside or not, but it's never that cut and dry with our officials is it? Took them about 2 mins to determine Danny Ings wasn't offside at OT a couple of weeks ago despite it being pretty black and white. Danny Ings’ “offside” had a handball and three different offside instances to look at. That Cavani one is one instance, clearly onside. There is no outrage to be had here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 22, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Looks parallel with the WHU player. Looks off to me to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Looks off to me to be honest Trick of the camera. It's on (unfortunately!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 22, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Trick of the camera. It's on (unfortunately!) Yep. Just shows why we need the lines (sometimes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Stevo985 said: Yep. Just shows why we need the lines (sometimes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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