bannedfromHandV Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 How about if VAR was administered by ex-players. Of course the top players will earn too much money to be arsed about signing up for a career in match officiating but your average league one/two players would need the money and likely would welcome being kept in the game. I would trust the opinion of an ex player all day long over that of an over officious person who’s been trained to be as pedantic as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 31 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: How about if VAR was administered by ex-players. Of course the top players will earn too much money to be arsed about signing up for a career in match officiating but your average league one/two players would need the money and likely would welcome being kept in the game. I would trust the opinion of an ex player all day long over that of an over officious person who’s been trained to be as pedantic as possible. Too biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Spoony said: Hmmm it’s all well and good but can you imagine the realities. The dogs abuse they get for decisions certain fans don’t agree with will just be even worse and I think the massive increase I pressure isn’t going to help get the right decision. This is an example of a very straightforward decision. I'm not so sure. I think part of what makes people angry is we have no idea why they're making the decisions until some statement comes out hours later that always has the air of arse-covering. I think if we heard the refs discussing it and heard their reasoning, even if we don't agree it'd reduce the frustration. I can't see the PGMOL lot accepting it though, they've always had a god complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Pulisic slide tackles Cancelo, Cancelo holds his studs up, misses the ball and plants them on Pulisic's leg. Referee doesn't check. What am I missing here? Feels like that should be looked at. This is where the VAR shouldn't be making decisions about whether it's ok or not. He should just ask the ref to have a second look and leave it solely in the refs hands. (PS I think it definitely would be reviewed for the lesser teams and in games that weren't considered a showpiece.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, May-Z said: Pulisic slide tackles Cancelo, Cancelo holds his studs up, misses the ball and plants them on Pulisic's leg. Referee doesn't check. What am I missing here? Feels like that should be looked at. This is where the VAR shouldn't be making decisions about whether it's ok or not. He should just ask the ref to have a second look and leave it solely in the refs hands. (PS I think it definitely would be reviewed for the lesser teams and in games that weren't considered a showpiece.) The last bit is key for me. If one of our players does it tonight I have no doubt that it will result in a red card. Obviously if Fernandes does it to one of our players I’m sure United will get a penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Should just stop calling them over to look at the screen, just tell the refs to give it. Wolves penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Should just stop calling them over to look at the screen, just tell the refs to give it. Wolves penalty. Means that its still the pitch refs decision rather than undermining him Not that they're a team or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 VAR should only be used to check if the ball crossed the line,everything else should be up to the ref ( like it used to be ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: VAR should only be used to check if the ball crossed the line,everything else should be up to the ref ( like it used to be ) They use a different technology for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: VAR should only be used to check if the ball crossed the line,everything else should be up to the ref ( like it used to be ) Everything is up to the ref. All VAR does is says "you might want to have a look at that, possible foul" and then ref makes the decision. It's some sort of a myth to say the ref has been stripped of responsibilities. All shit calls in 2022 and in 2012 were down to refs. Edited January 17, 2022 by Mic09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Review all the incidents in real time. Everything looks ten times worse when it’s slowed down. Either that it **** it off altogether. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Mic09 said: Everything is up to the ref. All shit calls in 2022 and in 2012 were down to refs. If you're gonna cover the last ten years you might as well go back all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 One thing I’d like to be added with VAR is a time limit for them to make a decision. Spending minutes, getting out the lines trying to work out an offside is frustrating at best. If you can’t decide quickly enough just give the goal and let’s move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 17:49, CarryOnVilla said: One thing I’d like to be added with VAR is a time limit for them to make a decision. Spending minutes, getting out the lines trying to work out an offside is frustrating at best. If you can’t decide quickly enough just give the goal and let’s move on Yep, if it's a "clear and obvious" error it shouldn't need 5 mins to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: Yep, if it's a "clear and obvious" error it shouldn't need 5 mins to figure it out. clear and obvious is only spiel though, its the get out of jail free card to do whatever they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Why can’t the VAR just say “it’s a corner” or “no it’s their throw” in one second? You’ve got all these bellends in a van watching might as well make the most of it. Edited January 22, 2022 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Legalised cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 That was offside didn't even bother to check it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Legalised cheating Just now, BG_Villa_Fan said: That was offside didn't even bother to check it. The Man Utd goal? Looked onside from the clip I saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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