briny_ear Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Kodjia has cost £11m and our net spend is under £30m. Drat! If it wasn't for those pesky facts, he'd have got away with it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Teams getting relegated from the PL have been financially better equipped for years. The gap has been massive for decades now. Yet the statistics are clear to see - normally no more than one of the teams relegated goes back up the following year. Football is not simply decided by comparing bank accounts. Agree mate. Sunderland could potentially implode if they come down and hull only have about 17 players in the squad. We will have had a season in this league and the players are starting to gel, if we can finish pretty well this season (another 15-20 points) then I think it puts us in a great position to challenge next season. We will have the added bonus that we don't need a mass overhaul we are probably 2-3 players away from a title winning side. UTV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted March 5, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Villa Stu said: Agree mate. Sunderland could potentially implode if they come down and hull only have about 17 players in the squad. We will have had a season in this league and the players are starting to gel, if we can finish pretty well this season (another 15-20 points) then I think it puts us in a great position to challenge next season. We will have the added bonus that we don't need a mass overhaul we are probably 2-3 players away from a title winning side. UTV Praise! Testify! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 hours ago, JE- said: No point sacking him now and I also know he's manager next season so it's a pointless discussion There is a guy out of work who I'd approach and that's marcelino Nailed on to bring success .....is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I have known times when we have been turned over by the fighting spirit of bottom of the table teams. We can't be critical all of the time. Turning this demise around, was never going to be like switching on a light. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, Villa Stu said: Agree mate. Sunderland could potentially implode if they come down and hull only have about 17 players in the squad. We will have had a season in this league and the players are starting to gel, if we can finish pretty well this season (another 15-20 points) then I think it puts us in a great position to challenge next season. We will have the added bonus that we don't need a mass overhaul we are probably 2-3 players away from a title winning side. UTV Curse you ! I nearly got away with convincing myself not to renew !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 So let me get this right. NEXT year it WILL actually be fun ? Pleeeeaaaassseeee ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 While i have been critical of his style of football previously. I am impressed in last few games with our midfielders getting into opposition box. 1st half was Bjarnason and then when he came off Hourihane was bombing forward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Agree. I think he was too careful it's much better now. I know the argument is he can do it now with Jedi but I think he could've tried it anyway. Anyway hopefully that's history. We've certainly got bodies forward more since second half v Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE- Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Kodjia has cost £11m and our net spend is under £30m. I'd love to see how you worked that out... Kodja will cost us close to 15m Our spend is closer to 40m net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I dont think JE is a fan of Bruce. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, JE- said: I'd love to see how you worked that out... Kodja will cost us close to 15m Our spend is closer to 40m net If I'm correct your view is Bruce should do better given the money spent ? I don't think anyone actually disagrees with that, and I don't think it really makes much difference whether Kodja cost £5m, £15m, or £50 m does it ? Nor does it make much difference whether our net spend was £5m, or £45m . I think the main differences of opinion are not whether we should be doing better but whether he's had enough time to do better or whether he deserves more given his record and our state as a Club. Surely you aren't arguing that where we are in the League, or where Kodja is in a list of scorers, should directly correlate to money spent without any context ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted March 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'm very pleased that Steve Bruce has bought himself some time. That is important for us as a club, so that any decisions made are made in a calm and objective way and not in the midst of yet another crisis. I'm a great believer in the power of momentum and there can be no better example of this than Leicester's amazing run from bottom of the league to Champions and almost doing it in reverse! I believe that one possible reason for the turn around has been the injuries we have picked up in recent weeks which have ironically lead to a more settled side. We haven't had to try to accommodate Kodj and Hogan for example. The team is sort of picking itself. Ok lack of options and competition for places isn't ultimately desirable, but it has allowed things to settle down and the fit players to settle and build confidence so that when gradually the injured start to return they will come in gradually and into a more settled side. Those of you old enough will remember the 1986 England World Cup Squad suffering injuries to key players early on which meant Bobby Robson picked a more settled side by default. I'm not knocking either manager, but sometimes fate can lend a hand in a positive way. Ultimately if we can build on the last three games momentum, once we have more options, Steve Bruce can make decisions with a more confident mindset and in a position of strength rather than crisis. This obviously depends on the next few games continuing to build in a generally positive direction. A week, or in this case 8 days, is a long time in football. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Jareth said: You may have missed the fact that when Tony and RDM started they said promotion was hopefully a 1 year target but it may take 2 years. If you were expecting Bruce to deliver promotion given when he started at the club, then you are part of the problem, i.e. ridiculous expectations, constant manager swaps, failure. Didn't Tony Xia also say we'd be one of the biggest clubs in world football within 5 years? I mean, maybe we will be.... but the problem with "ridiculous expectations" partly comes from such expectations being set by the guy who owns the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Zatman said: While i have been critical of his style of football previously. I am impressed in last few games with our midfielders getting into opposition box. 1st half was Bjarnason and then when he came off Hourihane was bombing forward Almost like new players are starting to settle and understand their teammates or something. Almost. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, bobzy said: Didn't Tony Xia also say we'd be one of the biggest clubs in world football within 5 years? I mean, maybe we will be.... but the problem with "ridiculous expectations" partly comes from such expectations being set by the guy who owns the club. If you want to reach the moon, shoot for the stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, JE- said: Sacked at Sunderland 2 relegations... That's more failure than success Deary me if you want Bruce when in the prem then I really do despair Despair away. It doesn't make a difference really. As an alternative however, shall we worry about what we do in the PL if/when we make it back? You know, rather than using it as an imaginary stick to beat the manager with now. Edited March 5, 2017 by dont_do_it_doug. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE- Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 As I say Good old Randolph employs Bruce for this season he would be getting total abuse That's the whole irony of this whole Bruce discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JE- said: As I say Good old Randolph employs Bruce for this season he would be getting total abuse That's the whole irony of this whole Bruce discussion I don't think you know what irony is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE- Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I don't think you know what irony is. Christ are you Bruce's long lost son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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