rodders0223 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nicho said: What is Rooney doing in midfield again Judginf by the first 5 minutes...and the last 3 years, giving the ball away, getting caught in possession, passing backwards and playing pointless pretty balls out to his fullback. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 this is going to be a very boring match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Sturridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 That is where we want you Daniel. Against a team with 10 defenders, please keep dropping into midfield. Don't be an outlet or anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I think thats a red card offence Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Not sure what Henderson was thinking there crossing for Sturridge. Rooney was sitting in the middle of the pitch waiting to pass it sideways again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Don't like Henderson, usually only seems to want to go sideways or backwards, but some of the passes and balls he's put into the box have been absolutely class. Nice finish from Sturridge as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 It's such a boring group. Why can't England get drawn against an Italy or Holland...at least those would be exciting matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: It's such a boring group. Why can't England get drawn against an Italy or Holland...at least those would be exciting matches. with Southgate in charge at least games with Slovenia and Scotland will be interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Oh yeah I'm not expecting England to win all ten games this time but Scotland and Slovenia won't have the consistency to challenge for 1st. Last interesting group England were in were qualifiers for euro 2008 with Croatia and Russia in with them. We all know what happened there but that went down to the last minute of the last game so at least some tension and drama in that group....England will qualify from this one with at least two games to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Don't get the Rooney hate to be honest. He's playing in centre midfield and is doing as good a job as anybody else we could play there. He's playing fairly deep but if Alli is right up with the striker and both wide players are high up the pitch then that's no issue for me. As for the "red card" challenge, if that's a card of any kind we might as well get rid of tackling from the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, Nicho said: What is Rooney doing in an England shirt again Fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: Don't get the Rooney hate to be honest. He's playing in centre midfield and is doing as good a job as anybody else we could play there. He's playing fairly deep but if Alli is right up with the striker and both wide players are high up the pitch then that's no issue for me. As for the "red card" challenge, if that's a card of any kind we might as well get rid of tackling from the game! Time and again when Rooney plays in midfield and faces teams with pace who press him he has no answer. See the Manchester derby a few weeks back when Man. City ran rings round him and Fellani....Iceland in the summer pressed Rooney to death and he had no answer. I don't even think he's been that good today despite Malta just sitting back and being content to keep the score down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 That's the thing Rooney can play well against these, me and you probably could.. But he isn't a midfielder and I wouldn't want to build a team around him in that role so we may as well play someone else. Dier, Ward Prowse (who knows Southgate) or Drinkwater could do the job equally as well and are going to be around longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: That's the thing Rooney can play well against these, me and you probably could.. But he isn't a midfielder and I wouldn't want to build a team around him in that role so we may as well play someone else. Dier, Ward Prowse (who knows Southgate) or Drinkwater could do the job equally as well and are going to be around longer This is fair enough but Rooney is a better fit for a game like this than a player like Dier who isn't as good on the ball. I'm not suggesting we build a team around Rooney in centre midfield but as an option in the squad and in matches like today's I have no real issue with him playing. I don't think he's great but he's not keeping anyone very good out of the team as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: That's the thing Rooney can play well against these, me and you probably could.. But he isn't a midfielder and I wouldn't want to build a team around him in that role so we may as well play someone else. Dier, Ward Prowse (who knows Southgate) or Drinkwater could do the job equally as well and are going to be around longer Was about to come and say the same. Its hard to criticise at 2-0, but Rooney has done nothing that I couldnt have done against the same apposition. Id much rather have seen Ward-Prowse a chance as I really rate him. Time for a manager to force Rooneys choice of retirement. He is not the future of this team and needs to be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Biggest pile of shit I have ever watched this. Nice to know we have learnt from all of Roy's mistakes and played exactly the same personnel, shape, tactics. Looking forward to Rooney driving us on in 2018 from midfield. special mention to Theo, on his 40th game (approx) against dog shit men behind the ball teams he has once again proven to be laughably bad technically and mentally. Not an ounce of ability....but then we all knew that. Why? Just why? ...I also wonder do the pundits and commentators of Spain, Germany etc blow smoke up their players arse as much as we do when beating these minnows? This was a **** embarrassment. Call it as it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Biggest pile of shit I have ever watched this. Nice to know we have learnt from all of Roy's mistakes and played exactly the same personnel, shape, tactics. Looking forward to Rooney driving us on in 2018 from midfield. special mention to Theo, on his 40th game (approx) against dog shit men behind the ball teams he has once again proven to be laughably bad technically and mentally. Not an ounce of ability....but then we all knew that. Why? Just why? ...I also wonder do the pundits and commentators of Spain, Germany etc blow smoke up their players arse as much as we do when beating these minnows? This was a **** embarrassment. Call it as it is. Lingard, Walcott, Bertrand, Henderson, Stones and Sturridge all hardly played under Hodgson. Walcott hasn't been good here but has done well for Arsenal lately. Haven't really seen to much overhyping of England players lately to be honest. Italy beat Malta 1-0 twice in their last qualifying group. A routine 2-0 win is hardly embarrassing IMO. Their keeper was pretty decent in the first half too. This could have been 4 or 5 easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Rodders said: this is going to be a very boring match that was a very boring match. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: ...I also wonder do the pundits and commentators of Spain, Germany etc blow smoke up their players arse as much as we do when beating these minnows? This was a **** embarrassment. Call it as it is. Always been the same and will no doubt continue, it's aimed at the Liverpool and Utd casual fans, everything is awesome, my favourite is still Rooney smashing a shot in to the upper tier of Wembley and Andy Townsend saying "well it was the right idea Clive" if our media called a spade a spade I think we'd have a very different national team, instead we go the other way, every one of the **** is "world class" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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