Pilchard Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: At some point in the future, I'd like us to have a manager I don't feel a little bit sorry for. McLeish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 He seems like a flower amongst a bundle of weeds. until the weed killer has been administered, it could be difficult for him to flourish. Its rare a flower can be fully appreciated being surrounded by so much uglyness. Time will tell. but right now, I look out of window and he is the only bit if hope, I have,for a brighter day. We need more flowers to change the landscape. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 6 hours ago, briny_ear said: Let's face it, Rémi hasn't been up to much as a manager so far, but his main asset is that he seems determined to stay. Not sure many managers worth their salt would be willing to take us on in our current state. serious case of Stockholm syndrome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, Zatman said: serious case of Stockholm syndrome Maybe they got his family locked up in the famous hotel room that once supposedly housed Whittingham, Defoe and all the others? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 4 hours ago, TRO said: He seems like a flower amongst a bundle of weeds. until the weed killer has been administered, it could be difficult for him to flourish. Its rare a flower can be fully appreciated being surrounded by so much uglyness. Time will tell. but right now, I look out of window and he is the only bit if hope, I have,for a brighter day. We need more flowers to change the landscape. Wow, that's almost poetic. Is it in fact a poem? No idea what the "weed killer" is, though. At the moment it seems there's just lots of people stomping around pulling up any remaining flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRO Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, briny_ear said: Wow, that's almost poetic. Is it in fact a poem? No idea what the "weed killer" is, though. At the moment it seems there's just lots of people stomping around pulling up any remaining flowers. The weed killer is the removal of the bad eggs/ weeds....excepting one as immovable until he sells. its just how it struck me.........all the uglyness. Edited February 21, 2016 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, briny_ear said: Wow, that's almost poetic. Is it in fact a poem? No idea what the "weed killer" is, though. At the moment it seems there's just lots of people stomping around pulling up any remaining flowers. Exactly, if your talking inside the club. Edited February 21, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 On 20 February 2016 at 10:10, briny_ear said: Let's face it, Rémi hasn't been up to much as a manager so far, but his main asset is that he seems determined to stay. Not sure many managers worth their salt would be willing to take us on in our current state. I would be reluctant to judge him on such a short period of time.....such a mammoth mess and no opportunity to change personnel. The jury is still out for me, but I'm reluctant to judge him just yet. It takes managers time to implement their philosophies.....even with a perfect platform. ours is a cesspit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The starting place for any manager should be Discipline and workrate, we have neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2016 On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 21:13, KHV said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, onmeedson said: The starting place for any manager should be Discipline and workrate, we have neither. I agree, but at a club where there seems little in any area of the club....it must be difficult. I'm not saying he can't be criticised, just saying ....I'm in doubt at any validity under the circumstances. Edited February 21, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmeedson Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Might be the difference between a good and bad job, stick to what you are there for and leave the rest to the powers that be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2016 10 hours ago, onmeedson said: The starting place for any manager should be Discipline and workrate, we have neither. We have noticeably more than when Garde took over, anomalies like the Liverpool game aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: We have noticeably more than when Garde took over, anomalies like the Liverpool game aside. I don't think there's been that much. Ayew's elbow, Grealish on the piss after Everton and Lescott giving up during the game to allow Leicester to score are 3 big examples of lack of discipline. I'm sure we're still the team that's covered the least distance and apart from a couple of games I think our workrate has been pretty poor in most performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2016 8 hours ago, DCJonah said: I don't think there's been that much. Ayew's elbow, Grealish on the piss after Everton and Lescott giving up during the game to allow Leicester to score are 3 big examples of lack of discipline. I'm sure we're still the team that's covered the least distance and apart from a couple of games I think our workrate has been pretty poor in most performances. I'm talking more about discipline in how we play, not stuff like Grealish and Ayew. That's a different kind of discipline. The Lescott thing is a valid point, but we're a shit football team, you can't expect us to be perfect all the time. That's an individual error. Garde has improved us in that sense. I'm almost certain that whilst we're still bottom of that stat, our workrate again has improved in matches over the season. I can also see that with my eyes, and not stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 We have noticeably more than when Garde took over, anomalies like the Liverpool game aside. That's a hell of a big "anomaly". Sort of... Leaving aside the facts that don't fit with my argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, briny_ear said: That's a hell of a big "anomaly". Sort of... Leaving aside the facts that don't fit with my argument? You do realise what an anomaly is? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: You do realise what an anomaly is? A Villa win for example 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 44 minutes ago, briny_ear said: That's a hell of a big "anomaly". Sort of... Leaving aside the facts that don't fit with my argument? Anomaly refers to frequency, not magnitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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