AshVilla Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 As an NHS worker I don't know what to make of this pay offer from the government. The money is welcome but if it's coming from cuts to NHS services or ring-fencing departmental budgets I can't see it as anything other than a massive own goal and i would be massively opposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AshVilla said: As an NHS worker I don't know what to make of this pay offer from the government. The money is welcome but if it's coming from cuts to NHS services or ring-fencing departmental budgets I can't see it as anything other than a massive own goal and i would be massively opposed. What’s the offer? £1k bonus and 5%? If so I’m surprised it’s considered acceptable. Edit: Answer my own question SkyNews Quote NHS unions have reached a pay deal with the government in a major breakthrough that could herald the end of strikes by frontline staff in England. The offer consists of a one-off payment of 2% of their salary plus a COVID recovery bonus of 4% for the current financial year 2022/23, and a 5% pay increase for 2023/24. Edited March 17, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) So I guess as an example of a £35k salary it’s a £700 bonus, plus £1,400 bonus, plus 5% pay rise going forwards. Edited March 17, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AshVilla Posted March 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Genie said: What’s the offer? £1k bonus and 5%? If so I’m surprised it’s considered acceptable. It's being pushed by unions as the best offer we are going to get given the current financial climate. Staff are not just striking because of the money it's the piss poor working conditions due to lack of staff because people are burnt out and gone off sick or have quit in their droves, there is something like a 150k staffing deficit. I don't see how giving people a one off bonus as you say and an increase in wages by cutting services closer to the bone will help the situation. It's the whole robbing Peter to pay Paul thing and i feel like they are just kicking the can down the road to the next GE so Labour can pick up the pieces. Edited March 17, 2023 by AshVilla 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Genie said: So I guess as an example of a £35k salary it’s a £700 bonus, plus £1,400 bonus, plus 5% pay rise going forwards. The bonus is between £1,655 and £3,789 based on your banding. When the Taxman, NI, Student loan, Pension have had their share we will probably be left with about 50p. Edited March 17, 2023 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 There absolutely has to be a pay rise but I don't see how that changes much about the current state of the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davkaus Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I'm surprised he's not slunk off quietly to rake it in on the speaking circuit. He must still believe he can actually come back as leader and win again, there's absolutely no way he's sitting on the backbenches to serve his constituents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, AshVilla said: It's being pushed by unions as the best offer we are going to get given the current financial climate. Staff are not just striking because of the money it's the piss poor working conditions due to lack of staff because people are burnt out and gone off sick or have quit in their droves, there is something like a 150k staffing deficit. It is not just the pay there are also non pay elements including staffing levels. This is part of what the RCN have said: Quote The offer made by the UK government today (16 March) is in addition to the pay rise NHS staff have already received for 2022/23. It consists of a one-off payment for the current financial year 2022/23 worth between £1,655 and £3,789 for Agenda for Change staff in England and a 5% consolidated (permanent) pay increase for 2023/24 for all those at point 2 of Band 2 and above. The government has also set out a series of commitments and plans to improve pay, terms and conditions over time. These include a specific commitment to the RCN to consider a new pay spine exclusively for all nursing staff, as part of work to tackle challenges faced by nurses and nursing with the intention that resulting changes can be delivered within the 2024/25 pay year. In addition, it has committed for the first time to a national evidence-based policy framework on safe staffing, focusing on registered nurses, that will draw on legislation in the rest of the UK and internationally. Alongside this, it will produce an implementation plan for the forthcoming NHS long-term workforce plan, including an intention to reduce reliance on agency staff. Other commitments include permanently suspending NHS pension abatement rules, which ensure those returning to work can save more in their pensions and are incentivised to stay in the workforce. As well as this the government has committed to ensuring the pay-setting process operates effectively, tackling violence and aggression towards staff in the NHS and improving support for newly qualified nurses. RCN Pay Offer Edited March 17, 2023 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markavfc40 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 3 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: any dissent is treason The only thing that pisses me off about this is that she is taking these journalists at our expense. Why bother as all those media outlets are only going to be preaching their biased findings to the the already converted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: includes women and children, trafficking victims and victims and modern slavery we truly are a shameful country I agree, it’s disgusting, but doubt anyone will ever be sent there. It’ll be a multimillion pound money pit and nobody will ever go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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