ml1dch Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Oh, shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Oh, shame. Time to change the rules chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: Time to change the rules chaps. A rule change and succesful VONC will not help one bit here. The timeframe is way too long to be of any use. Unless a large majority of the party can unite behind one single candidate and even then you suspect that someone like Kwarteng would stand as a candidate and refuse to step down in despite commanding only minimal support just to force it out to the membership to buy time. I can't see how disgruntled Tories can affect this unless there are enough of them that decide to band togather to form a new Party and remove Truss' majority. Maybe there is another way but I can't think of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2022 I'm hopeful that what disgruntled Tory's can do is prevent Truss being effective, to try to stop her putting some of her ideas into action. If they can manage that, it'd be a very good thing, on the one hand Truss saying and trying to do dumb stuff and alienating voters, bankers, donors and anyone else who can walk and chew gum at the same time, and on the other hand a reluctant party stopping her being able to get her ideas into legislation or active policy and do too much harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, bickster said: I can't see how disgruntled Tories can affect this unless there are enough of them that decide to band togather to form a new Party and remove Truss' majority. Maybe there is another way but I can't think of it Indeed. It's hard to see how this continues, but it's hard to see a mechanism by which it stops. Tory members are already grumpy with MPs for removing their heroic scarecrow from office, I imagine if they were told "you got this wrong, we want you to vote again*" then their mood will go from grumpy to apoplectic with their chosen representatives. *I'm led to believe that sort of thing goes down badly with voters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted October 12, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 It all seemed a bit jolly a month or so having a bit of a chortle about how shit Liz Truss was going to be and what a fool she was going to make of herself. But the reality is **** scary when you look at the extreme and long term damage she can inflict on the nation and all our futures. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Putting aside that it's absolutely hilarious, why would the palace think that releasing a video where he says that is in any way a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlwaysAVFC Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 Wasn't sure which thread to put it in but Shaun Ryder has added his 2 pennies worth about the home secretary. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Putting aside that it's absolutely hilarious, why would the palace think that releasing a video where he says that is in any way a good idea? Revenge disguised as an historic moment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 12, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, AlwaysAVFC said: Wasn't sure which thread to put it in but Shaun Ryder has added his 2 pennies worth about the home secretary. There was an even better one on Ch4 news tonight. Some American economist was responding to the JRM comment about the economic problems in the UK being to do with global interest rates. When asked directly about her thoughts on that She just outright said, “that’s bollocks” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: There was an even better one on Ch4 news tonight. Some American economist was responding to the JRM comment about the economic problems in the UK being to do with global interest rates. When asked directly about her thoughts on that She just outright said, “that’s bollocks” 3 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, markavfc40 said: Sometimes I miss my people so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 "That's bollox, Truss out" , t shirts at the ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted October 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2022 Fightback starts here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Absolute carnage in the papers today. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Genie said: Absolute carnage in the papers today. Beautiful. Elaborate, pls. I don't get to see papers and I want in on the carnage!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Elaborate, pls. I don't get to see papers and I want in on the carnage!! Have a look at the BBC paper roundup Quote Newspaper headlines: 'Tories in open revolt' and 'row looms over crown' The headlines The Times: Truss faces mounting Tory pressure to rewrite unfunded tax-cut plans I: Tories in open revolt against Prime Minister The Guardian: Truss faces new peril as Tories go on the attack over economy The Mirror: U-TURN OR YOU GO The Times: Rip up your tax plans, top officials urge Truss Metro: BLUE WALL FALLS Daily Express: ANGRY TORIES ATTACK BANK CHIEF'S ‘STUPID MOVE' ( ) Edited October 13, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Have a look at the BBC paper roundup Oof. I see the Express is doubling down by blaming the BoE. The only institution which at the moment is holding us back from total economic collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2022 In fairness, though, the Tories have managed something that no other Tory government has ever managed. They have effectively privatised the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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