Popular Post Davkaus Posted October 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: He believes in sky fairies Nah he doesn't. Thinks it's a load of bollocks. Has never really understood why people won't put logic above blind faith. Still a Christian obviously. the man's an enigma 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Half the people who vote Tory are seem to be like him. They're back the wrong party because they believe the scare stories about the left and probably think Labour advocate Stalinesque communism or whatever bollocks without realising they are 100% social democrats themselves, just like labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Rolta said: Half the people who vote Tory are seem to be like him. They're back the wrong party because they believe the scare stories about the left and probably think Labour advocate Stalinesque communism or whatever bollocks without realising they are 100% social democrats themselves, just like labour. In fairness Corbin was borderline unelectable. The current incumbents though, they've got my vote 150% 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 They vote Tory because poor people vote Labour and **** poor people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted October 7, 2022 Author Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rolta said: Half the people who vote Tory are seem to be like him. If that’s true then it suggests that half the Tory voters are pretty normal kinds of people. Which kind of supports the polls, because he said he’s ashamed of his party…which kind of implies he couldn’t vote for them next time. Which is nice. Also he’s in his 60s and has been a member for 56 years, so will remember a time when they weren’t as mind bendingly vile as they are now, and that time was probably when his outlook on life and politics was formed. What’s happened since then is Thatcher moved the tories further right, Major cut out some of her evil, Blair and Brown moved politics back towards the centre and then Cameron, May, Johnson and Truss moved the Tories further right, while Corbyn (to his credit, and I don’t say that often) moved thinking in the wider country leftwards, and Starmer has established a kind of Labour competency again. Which is a long winded way of saying the Tories are now way to the right of the general population’s thinking, while looking and demonstrating incompetence and division at the same time as Labour is looking focused and competent and more aligned with the general population’s outlook. So that Tory member might never join Labour because of long established loyalty, but he’s absolutely in the wrong party for today’s world. Its so pleasing to see the baby eaters turning further and further inwards and eating themselves, while Labour gets itself into a decent place and gives hope for better than the clusterpork which has been the last 12 years or so. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2022 You know that one metric the Tories always, always win on in any poll and for a lot of people is the most important metric. Duh, it's all about the economy stupid... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, bickster said: You know that one metric the Tories always, always win on in any poll and for a lot of people is the most important metric. Duh, it's all about the economy stupid... And interestingly (to me, anyway), even in 1997 the Tories had a lead on that particular question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: And interestingly (to me, anyway), even in 1997 the Tories had a lead on that particular question. Yes exactly, it's the one metric they always "win." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Just some casual libel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: Just some casual libel The thing I hate about this man the most is that he thinks he’s absolutely untouchable. After what happened to his good friend Mr Pincher you’d think he’d have learned it isn’t always the case. I’d love to see him get his comeuppance for years of being a clearing in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: It's quite something really - floating lib dems, centre ground tories must all be going Labour in an act of get the tories off the steering wheel ASAP. It's just such a sea change, no coordination or tactical voting discussions involved, just an inherent sense by the UK public that the government must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2022 Trade Minister Connor Burns (Who?) dismissed from Government after complaint of serious misconduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Genie said: After what happened to his good friend Mr Pincher you’d think he’d have learned it isn’t always the case. Speaking of, another one joins him in the "naughty former Tories" corner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Just now, bickster said: Trade Minister Connor Burns (Who?) dismissed from Government after complaint of serious misconduct If it was Arson, they really should have seen it coming 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: Trade Minister Connor Burns (Who?) dismissed from Government after complaint of serious misconduct Last seen grovelling in the latter stages of the leadership campaign to be given the Northern Ireland Secretary job, before being overlooked. Then piped up at conference the other day (sort of) slagging Truss off and saying Badenoch would do the trade job properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: If it was Arson, they really should have seen it coming Or a really good, cutting insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 7, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2022 Nero fiddles while Conor Burns. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) Given that there are a number of current Tory MP's facing serious allegations, including sexual assault (one is on bail following allegations of rape), but haven't had the whip removed, it makes you wonder what Burns has done to be sacked as a minister and have the whip removed. Edited October 7, 2022 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Given that there are a number of current Tory MP's facing serious allegations, including sexual assault (one is on bail following allegations of rape), but haven't head the whip removed, it makes you wonder what Burns has done to be sacked as a minister and have the whip removed. Done it to a party member I guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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