Raver50032 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 21/06/2017 at 20:31, Chindie said: I don't think there's much chance of it being canned, they've nearly finished filming. Rumour has it they have gone as it steps too far away from what people expect of Star Wars/Han Solo. Might be becoming a recurring theme, Rogue One got large reshoots to, allegedly, make it more Star Wars-y. The problem for me is, Han Solo is a 'fairly' misogynistic character, a lovable rogue, technically a criminal at the start of Episode 4. He's a boy racer. It'll be interesting to see how much of that is there from the start of the film. In the 21st Century, films about men like that are not really acceptable any more. Certainly unacceptable without a female character who is written in to act as the 'side kick' - yet who ends up being smarter, and more capable. That's what Kathy Kennedy is at Lucasfilm for. To promote women. Which is fine to a degree if it doesn't look forced and overboard. I wonder if the directors that left had creative differences about that with Kennedy? Did they make Han too misogynistic for 21st Century Disney? Who knows? For me, Solo is a character that needs to be portrayed in a certain way. Easier to make this film in the mid-80s, than in 2017 where females have to rule, kick ass and sass their way to cinemagoers money. JMO. The word 'feisty' is so patronising. I tend to get nauseous when I hear actresses describe their characters as 'feisty.' If a man sad that about a real life woman, she'd no doubt be offended. Still wager money that after what we saw in Rogue One, the final scene will be CGI Episode 4 Han Solo with Chewie walking into the Cantina on Tatooine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Raver50032 said: The problem for me is, Han Solo is a 'fairly' misogynistic character, a lovable rogue, technically a criminal at the start of Episode 4. He's a boy racer. It'll be interesting to see how much of that is there from the start of the film. In the 21st Century, films about men like that are not really acceptable any more. Certainly unacceptable without a female character who is written in to act as the 'side kick' - yet who ends up being smarter, and more capable. That's what Kathy Kennedy is at Lucasfilm for. To promote women. Which is fine to a degree if it doesn't look forced and overboard. I wonder if the directors that left had creative differences about that with Kennedy? Did they make Han too misogynistic for 21st Century Disney? Who knows? For me, Solo is a character that needs to be portrayed in a certain way. Easier to make this film in the mid-80s, than in 2017 where females have to rule, kick ass and sass their way to cinemagoers money. JMO. The word 'feisty' is so patronising. I tend to get nauseous when I hear actresses describe their characters as 'feisty.' If a man sad that about a real life woman, she'd no doubt be offended. Still wager money that after what we saw in Rogue One, the final scene will be CGI Episode 4 Han Solo with Chewie walking into the Cantina on Tatooine. You may be happy. Apparently Miller and Lord wanted to make Solo a more comedic character, and Kasdan basically said that isn't who Solo is, and that lead to the creative differences that ended with the directors getting binned. They have got dreadful actress Emilia Clarke on board to give a strong female character 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Chindie said: You may be happy. Apparently Miller and Lord wanted to make Solo a more comedic character, and Kasdan basically said that isn't who Solo is, and that lead to the creative differences that ended with the directors getting binned. They have got dreadful actress Emilia Clarke on board to give a strong female character Hmmmm, interesting that. Star Wars has a ribbon of humour running through it in places. But I agree, Solo isn't a comedy character. He is though a character who has smart alec lines and occasional quips. Overplaying the comedy is bad for the Star Wars mantra. It's a soap opera set in space, not a comedy. Leave comedy to the awful Spaceballs crowd. There is room for some comedy in place in Star Wars, but it should never dominate. Part of the reason why I despise the Family Guy Star Wars stuff, and the Keith Lemon/Paddy McGuiness stuff parodying Star Wars. To me, it's a serious thing. That said, I love the Robot Chicken parodies. I guess I live as a contradictory paradox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Raver50032 said: To be fair, is that not Greedo helping Anakin Sywalker in Episode 1 as part of the Pod Race build up? I think that was a different Rodian. Greedo had a deleted scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2017 13 hours ago, Raver50032 said: Still wager money that after what we saw in Rogue One, the final scene will be CGI Episode 4 Han Solo with Chewie walking into the Cantina on Tatooine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 means it'll be the end of that story though which im not convinced by, hope they dont but think they might cash in on Han and do multiple films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 23/06/2017 at 21:55, villa4europe said: means it'll be the end of that story though which im not convinced by, hope they dont but think they might cash in on Han and do multiple films True... personally, they can't make too many Star Wars films. Solo's back history (if still SW lore) is quite pithy and could easily stretch to a second film - he was part of the Imperial Academy IIRC, his early life on Corellia, earning the Corellian blood stripes (those lines on his trousers) etc. Oh yeah, and the big freeing of Chewie from slavery... the winning (fair and square) of the Falcon. It's a rich life, with lots of traditional Star Wars close escapes I'm sure. That's a lot to cover in one film. Oh, and the swoop bike race between Solo and Dengar that resulted in all those bandages. But what a way to lead into Episode 4 with Solo and Chewie entering the cantina... whether it be this film, or two or three more down the line. Hence the masturbation meme!! I think a Bounty Hunter series could work in the future too - giving the more mature audience a similar 'dark' tone to Star Wars films that Rogue One dipped it's toe into. Bounty Hunters are many, and their stories of collaboration and betrayal are story-worthy as much as any sith/jedi business. Imagine a space-chase epic with Boba Fett carrying Solo in carbonite between Empire and Return of the Jedi on the way to Jabba's palace to collect the reward, being tailed by 4-LOM, ID-88, Dengar, Zukuss etc. Could be the Wacky Races, or Terminator chic depending on which director they chose for it. I think there is a market for more serious, dark Star Wars expanded universe films. And like I said, they can never make enough. It's a captive market. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I love these reaction videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Watched it thinking if she's that much of a fan why didn't she watch it at the cinema? Then I realised if I was her fella I wouldn't take her either... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, villa4europe said: Watched it thinking if she's that much of a fan why didn't she watch it at the cinema? Then I realised if I was her fella I wouldn't take her either... She is a bit OTT, but that's pretty much how I would have been watching it, if I wasn't such a reserved Englishman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2017 6 hours ago, dAVe80 said: She is a bit OTT, but that's pretty much how I would have been watching it, if I wasn't such a reserved Englishman. I'm an Englishman thats been living in the US since 1999 & I was basically acting exactly like her. In the cinema my wife was laughing at me so much. I think I even said "I can die happy now." I felt like some sort of circle had been completed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 19 hours ago, villa4europe said: Watched it thinking if she's that much of a fan why didn't she watch it at the cinema? Then I realised if I was her fella I wouldn't take her either... I wish Vader had struck her down too. Annoying bint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 6, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2017 Trevorrow has left Episode IX. Whether that's jumped or pushed who knows, but having a disastrous name on his CV after this summer probably didn't help, since he obviously got the job off the back of Jurassic World being an enormous success. You'd probably get short odds on Rian Johnson staying on post VIII I suspect, word around his film has been quietly confident even for a Star Wars film (although personally I think the design work is very weak and the rumours about the plot were Seinfeld throwing hands up worthy...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Chindie said: Trevorrow has left Episode IX. Whether that's jumped or pushed who knows, but having a disastrous name on his CV after this summer probably didn't help, since he obviously got the job off the back of Jurassic World being an enormous success. You'd probably get short odds on Rian Johnson staying on post VIII I suspect, word around his film has been quietly confident even for a Star Wars film (although personally I think the design work is very weak and the rumours about the plot were Seinfeld throwing hands up worthy...). Considering the early buzz around Thor Ragnorak, maybe Taika Waititi could be a good shout? having watched Jurassic World, I'm relieved trevorrow has walked/been pushed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 6, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, theboyangel said: Considering the early buzz around Thor Ragnorak, maybe Taika Waititi could be a good shout? having watched Jurassic World, I'm relieved trevorrow has walked/been pushed. Yeah I wouldn't count on that... Tbf I think he'd be a bad mix with something like Star Wars, outside of one of the side story things they've got going on. His style would suit weirdly with the finale of a trilogy with some supposed weight behind it and canon. With Thor he's got more free reign because Marvel isn't making true trilogies, so the movies just need to hit certain points on the way to the overall goal for the series, and the Thor series is even more loose. Star Wars main series wouldn't give him that at all. Rian Johnson will be the shoe in unless he's burnt out or VIII is unexpectedly shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 So, after somebody on Twitter jokingly suggested letting David Lynch have a crack at directing IX, I found out he nearly got the ROTJ gig. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'd like to live in a world were Lynch didn't turn down RotJ, and Jodorowsky's Dune happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted September 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'd imagine Lynch's take on Ewoks would be something directly from the nightmare dimension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chindie said: I'd imagine Lynch's take on Ewoks would be something directly from the nightmare dimension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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