Morpheus Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Right. Just a quick apology to Stefan for my comments earlier in the thread which were too aggressive. Both our comments were valid for different reasons and I should have left it at that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Anyone see McCartney in concert on BBC4 last night? Not bad for a 71 year old but his voice is now starting to go and i wonder how long he can go on playing live before his ego will allow him to call it a day? Some voices get better as they get older and some don't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2013 Do you think Nick Cave is ready to be admitted to the Dylan-Cohen-Waits Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Do you think Nick Cave is ready to be admitted to the Dylan-Cohen-Waits Club? He's already in as far as I'm concerned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Were the Sex Pistols over rated? After all, they did save music, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Were the Sex Pistols over rated? After all, they did save music, didn't they? In the age of the rock virtuoso they certainly gave hope to the rest of us who couldn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 People 'rate' the Sex Pistols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 They were a glimpse of an alternative world where you didn't have to have a perm or a 10 minute noodling solo or sing about wizards or California. I know you can conjur up bands like the New York Dolls and a dozen others that did it better earlier, but they were the ones that were suddenly visible, grabbed attention and showed 'you' can do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Pistols were fake in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Do you think Nick Cave is ready to be admitted to the Dylan-Cohen-Waits Club? He's already in as far as I'm concerned. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Right. Just a quick apology to Stefan for my comments earlier in the thread which were too aggressive. Both our comments were valid for different reasons and I should have left it at that. We were both saying the same thing really. Apology gladly accepted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Pistols were fake in my opinion You mean they were made? It's kind of irrelevant now, they happened and they were a cultural phenomenon. Revisionist history won't take that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Twilight is a cultural phenomenon, don't make it any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Pistols were fake in my opinion You mean they were made? It's kind of irrelevant now, they happened and they were a cultural phenomenon. Revisionist history won't take that back. They were the musical face of the McClaren-Westwood franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 They come out at the right time as music was getting very self indulgent but I just don't buy what they were about, the clash for me were a more sincere band, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 you don't have to buy what they were about, they showed a whole bunch of people there was an alternative to being as boring as Santana or Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 That's why I said they came out at the right time as music was getting a bit to much at times, you can't deny their cultural importance I admit but they were useless, the only half talented one got bullied and left the band because he could play an instrument and he liked the beatles, then came along the face of punk mr sid vicious who was nothing more than a poster boy for the band but it worked as history tells us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 The Beatles - largely shit. However sgt pepper is a musical masterpiece imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 17, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2013 you don't have to buy what they were about, they showed a whole bunch of people there was an alternative to being as boring as Santana or Sky Santana were fantastic. But I liked the Pistols, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I may have been slightly glib and short hand. I'm not sure I've ever actually heard any Santana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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