Hughes

No way the club has told Luiz that SG is off. If so, the club statement would be out last night or this morning. Luiz may think SG is off, but that is another matter.

What does it matter to keep him, not take the 25 or whatever as long as the manager clearly does not fancy him and will not play him? I do not understand - if he wanted to go and SG does not want to play him as a regular, why insist on keeping him.

it is almost like this window just blew Villa completely off balance and that they did not expect what actually happened. We keep buying players in the 20-ish mill tier. Players this window have gone regularly for 40, 50, 60 and beyond. The spending from most other PL clubs seem to have just baffled Villa and we are not in any way competing. No way. We can't even sell players we do not want. Based on Sky Sports figures: Brighton are ca 95 mill in plus and looks better. ManCity is 50 mill i plus and IS better. Chelsea have spent ca 220 net, ManUnited ca 200 net. Bloody West Ham spent ca 150 net and Arabia Castle ca 120 net. Nottingham have too many ins and out for me to bother doing the maths but it is a substantial net spend. Villa? We have ca 20 net in spending. 20 million. Questions must soon be asked of the owners I am afraid, they cannot keep telling a tale of European ambitions and keep being totally outspent. Its not all about the money, I know, but seriously, we are on a different level unfortunately.

not being sacked until after Leicester at the earliest, if we win that one he may stay on...Obviously not being sacked today/on deadline day.

start of his reign: "we need to install a no excuse culture at the club". today's presser: "We’ll do our best, people are working hard in the background to support me in those areas. It was a blow to lose Diego Carlos as he was out major statement signing – having him missing has certainly been felt."

Crazy. Just crazy.

Yes, he's got potential but 60 million is, again, just insane. He really is not that good. This window has completely fu**ed valuations. One year ago 100 mill for JG was a record and considered crazy, now 50 and 60 mill is commonplace for whatevertalent.

That map is "fake news" as you never invaded Norway? In fact, we invaded you.

Or, did he come from West Ham...?? I may stand corrected!

How could you forget Mrs. Unsworth??

Seriously? We are talking despicable personalities here or what? Ellis: Sure, divided opinions, clearly a "look-at-me-person" but lots of people tell stories of how kind of a man he was. Maybe shit Villa owner but good guy otherwise? Hodge - sure, understand. McLeish? I met him when managing Rangers after an Old Firm coming back to Ibrox - seriously nice guy. Again, shit Villa manager for sure and completely wrong at the time (or, any time to be frank), but absolutely no word removed. Bruce is to me in the same bracket as McLeish - should never have been Villa manager, but word removed?? Come on....

Aaahhh yes! There you have a proper CitWs. How could I forget......

Oooouufff, there is just so many, isn't it? If we are talking proper clearing in the woods as to personality (as they came across, admittedly noone on here know many previous managers and players in person): Delph is the king of this topic; the way he left is something which still leaves me wondering "WTF?". Gabby is the prince in this story; club captain giving absolutely wanks when, supposedly, HIS club needed him the most. Apologies, I cam never forgive him. Tony Xia - obvious crook and willing strawman for a money laundering exercise which was quite astonishing. Sorry; Grealish can F right off and he does come across as a complete bellend. O'Leary; had no ambition for this club and seemed to hate us while he managed us. M Richards; now spouting off and blaming everyone else for his total shambles of a Villa "carreer". I'll leave it that. For now.

The strange thing is that 100 mill for JG now all of sudden seems way below what we should get. 150 for Kane, 100 for Lukaku, I think 100 for JG will be a steal for City. Wait one year and they will have a Beckham-like global superstar To the Villa he is surely worth much, much more than 100 mill - we cannot replace him in my view and 100 mill only gets you two, maybe three really good players who may or may not work out at VP. If there ever was one irreplaceable player in any team sport anywhere, JG is it.

Jeez apples and airplanes.

I know. I said "almost". He is at least Jesus in Torino, though!

Belotti would be the biggest signing Villa has ever made IMO. That would be unbelievable, he is almost like Torino's Totti.

Jack = Jesus. End of.

Steve Bruce has possessed Dean Smith.

It is shocking and extremely worrying that Snith plays Hause. Not even close to being at the required level and if the manager cannot see that I really despair. And why he choses the negative line ups when he played more attacking when winning earlier, I cannot understand..worrying times indeed.

Fact of the matter is that, up to 82 mins this was one of the worst performances at Villa Park for quite some time. No tempo (did you see the difference is time-per-touch - scary), no movement (it was crazy difference) and no effing urgency. It has been like this for a long period now. I would love, absoluelty love (in the words of KK) for Dean to succeed, but he needs to do better. Bringing in Jedinak was a disaster (he surely must be done now). Anyway, here's to another season in the Chchip. The good thing is that Dean has plenty of time to prepare.

How the mood has changed, not directed at you. Not long ago we totally outplayed Derby and Boro away, pissed on the shit and scored goals for fun. Every Villa fan believed in promotion and now it's just doom and gloom. The one difference is Grealish. I am starting to believe is he actually much better than what most think.

Hause had without any doubt the worst debut I have ever seen by any player at any level against Wigan. He was so out of his depth is was truly embarrassing. Cannot see a week of training will fix all that but hope I am wrong.

Have you all gone mad? Not to expect promotion? Not even expect play-off position? 3 years? League One? Really? Dean must be given time, I agree 100%. And yes, the squad is stupidly unbalanced. However, this squad contains more talent and quality than most squads in the history of the championship. In my view, not even reaching the play-off will be a major failure. And if someone thinks that our owners do not expect DS to get this right (As is challenging for promotion) THIS SEASON I think you will be surprised. Give him time and patience, yes. Not to expect challenging for and reaching promotion - getouttahere.