Dr_Pangloss Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 more evidence that joe hart is one of the most overrated keepers around, hes made plenty of errors like that over the last couple of years. but i guess he plays for man city so he must be world class. He's a world class hype-job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I don't want to turn this into a Heskey v Welbeck thread. But the only season in his career Heskey got more then 15 goals was 2000/2001. His next highest total was 14 in 2001/2002. I stand by my statement 1 good season for Heskey. and a few average ones. Silly criteria for a good season. He was very good for Leicester, it's as simple as that. This is an example of why using wikipedia to make arguments is a bad idea, completely devoid of context. Yeah judging a striker on goals scored is a really silly criteria to use. 98/99 9 goals in 40 appearances - amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Scotland keeper time wasting on 17mins, oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Hart will never be world class. Far too inconsistent and weaknesses in his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Joe Hart is quality, yeah he made a mistake, but he is a good keeper. I would say best English goalkeeper of the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 to be fair to hart he's still miles better than any other keeper we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It may just be my TV, but does anyone else think that Wilshire looks like Wee Man from Jackass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) I don't want to turn this into a Heskey v Welbeck thread. But the only season in his career Heskey got more then 15 goals was 2000/2001. His next highest total was 14 in 2001/2002. I stand by my statement 1 good season for Heskey. and a few average ones. Silly criteria for a good season. He was very good for Leicester, it's as simple as that. This is an example of why using wikipedia to make arguments is a bad idea, completely devoid of context. Yeah judging a striker on goals scored is a really silly criteria to use. 98/99 9 goals in 40 appearances - amazing. Very unlikely that you even watched him at that point so no point in this argument. He was one of the hottest prospects in English football and that was based on his performances, hence Liverpool spending a lot of money on him. Don't get me wrong, he was invariably a shit player for England but he most definitely had more than one good season in English football and was better than Wellbeck at the same stage in his career, Edited August 14, 2013 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Fantastic tackle that by Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I hope Walcott is this shit on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) to be fair to hart he's still miles better than any other keeper we have Jed Steer > Hart Edited August 14, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Had a punt on Rooney to score a hat trick, I reckon he's gonna be desperate to prove a point tonight. I recon he's going to stroll around and go through the motions before coming off at half time myself. Also possible, it'll be one of the extremes. looking like you are closer than me! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 to be fair to hart he's still miles better than any other keeper we have Jed Steer > Hart yeah but jed steer doesn't play for one of roy's favourite teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Phil Jagielka, never in a million years is that bloke an international class centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I watched Heskey alot in his Leicester days. Anyway moving on................ I love the atmosphere I wish England and Scotland were in the same qualifying group. The 2 nations always seem to avoid eachother which is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 that was dire, cleverly breaking no one looked interested in the slightest, shit pass to round it all off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I hope Walcott is this shit on Sunday. Don't be silly, he's going to have the best game of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cleverley and Welbeck, if they played for smaller clubs, they wouldn't be called up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cleverly is poor as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Half of these players shouldn't be England internationals, no idea where England are ranked these days but theres a good 10-12 teams better than them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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