chrisp65 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The fact that I spent all morning slow roasting a chicken, made my own yorkies, fabulous roasties, home made stuffing, really put a lot into a big family dinner.......a good few hours work...... .....and they basically demolished it. Did anyone notice the hint of garlic? Did anyone guess the rosemary was from the garden? Did anyone know the onion was the last of last year's crop? Nah, they'd have to chew to notice that stuff. Should've done a giant tray of oven chips and spent the morning abusing myself (there's always next week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Bored. Plugged my PS2 in but forgot to plug my old TV in as well and now I can't be bothered to play at all now. Bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Sky commentators talking as if Wolves had a chance of staying up if they beat Man City today. "Wolves are in trouble now. If it stays like this they will be relegated. They'll have to go all out attack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think I look like Albert Nobbs and I'm afraid someone will notice. I wish they'd stop advertising it everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think I look like Albert Nobbs and I'm afraid someone will notice. I wish they'd stop advertising it everywhere I wasn't aware of this film until now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 A derby is a game which generates special interest. You dont have to be local to the opposition for the game to be considered a derby. I never knew that. I always thought derby meant a game between two teams geographically near eachother. So I guess the recent AC Milan v Barcelona game was a derby then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Yeah, derby is just used as a different term to grudge match I suppose, two teams who have a history and a rivalry. Local derby is the term used for two teams with a history and a rivalry but primarily because they're so close geographically to each other. It depends though really. I would say most England football fans would consider Germany to be our main rival, but I think I learned a few years ago that the Germans don't consider us rivals at all, I think they consider the Dutch their rivals, although I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 With regards to your final point you are spot on. Although tensions have decreased and the younger generation do not care as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2012 Yep, the germans don't give a shit about us. It's Holland who they care about (you can't blame them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_kie Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 the amount of time it takes bus drivers to swap over shifts, particularly when your running late for work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yep, the germans don't give a shit about us. It's Holland who they care about (you can't blame them) The England - Germany rivalry is less of a thing now than it was in the 60s, 70s & 80s. It was born out of the war really, Germany pissed us off so we hated them but it was a generational thing which has almost passed as of now. Of course, Germany pissed off pretty much everybody in the world so our hatred was just a drop in the ocean. The most densely populated part of Germany shares a border with The Netherlands, and of course the Nazis invaded and occupied Holland for five years and killed a lot of Dutch people in the process. Understandably those scars will take a lot longer than ours to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They killed quite a few Brits too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 They did, but as an overall number and as a percentage of the population it's nothing like on the scale of what they did to the Dutch. They occupied the country too, which must have made life really shitty (just look at the life story of Anne Frank) and there are probably plenty of people in The Netherlands now who can still remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2012 They killed quite a few Brits tooNever occupied us though. Imagine how it would be if we'd had the Gestapo on site for five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 23, 2012 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2012 There's also the more relevant (in football terms) fact that Germany and Netherlands are next door neighbours and both powerhouses in world football (no offence). Both of those things on their own will engender a rivalry but put together it makes it doubly spicy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It pisses me when someone dislikes/hates another group for what that groups ancestors did. If you were born in say 1976, you had absolutely nothing to do with the war. And neither did your parents. It makes no sense to me. I read a book on the Netherlands Germany football rivalry and it was extremely intense especially in the 1980s and it kind of exploded during that game in 1990. The one with the llama incident, I am sure you now what I am on about. Fights between the players after the game also. And they are playing eachother in 6 weeks in the Euro. I can not wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2012 The one with the llama incident, I am sure you now what I am on about. Erm... no. :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted April 23, 2012 Riijkard spitting at Voller I assume he means. Not sure why he couldn't write that though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I've always thought of the England-Germany football rivalry as a reflection of their battle for European supremacy (both being Europe's two largest economies and pre-eminent military powers at the time of the war), rather than a manifestation of deep-seated resentment over German war crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The Germany England thing is about the war. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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