Davkaus Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, useless said: , I wouldn't be swapping Duran for Wilson for example, Wilson will get goals but he's like another Ingsy, Duran way better for the team with his all round game I think it's a very fair argument that Duran is more valuable on the books than an aging Wilson, but better for the team, at this point in time, than a 1 in 2 goalscorer? Not sure there's a non-Villa fan in the country who'd agree with that Agreed with the rest though Edited December 15, 2023 by Davkaus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 On 15/12/2023 at 05:32, useless said: I wouldn't be swapping Duran for Wilson for example, Wilson will get goals but he's like another Ingsy, Duran way better for the team with his all round game That is absolutely mental. Callum Wilson is 5 times the player and I'd drive Duran up there myself if that was an option. I've seen absolutely nothing to convice me that Duran will make it as PL player and the sooner we get a decent back up for Ollie, the better. Lack of a back up striker is our weak link and Newcastle are fortunate to have one as good as Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Wilson is the perfect back up striker really. He has the talent to be a starter, but his body can't handle that and he knows it, so he's not going to kick up a fuss being on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Rather have wilson than duran as no 2 striker any day depsute the age. Durans young and green. He has potential to be bettee but right now wilson would better for us where we are as a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Schar goes off injured. Howe will claim it’s terrible luck but it’s a hamstring injury and therefore just as likely caused by him overworking his players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Durans young and green. He has potential to be better Has he? I havent seen that at all. Potential to better than Wilson? Not sure where you are seeing that. All I see is a clumsy young kid at this stage. (1 good goal against Palace aside). I fully expect him to be loaned out as soon as we get a proper back up striker. Edited December 16, 2023 by GlobalVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Apparently the St James park atmosphere is dead today, if Fulham hold on with 10 men then their bubble really can be burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Apparently the St James park atmosphere is dead today, if Fulham hold on with 10 men then their bubble really can be burst. I doubt it happens. The ref has all but scored a goal for Newcastle today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: Has he? I havent seen that at all. Potential to better than Wilson? Not sure where you are seeing that. All I see is a clumsy young kid at this stage. (1 good goal against Palace aside). I fully expect him to be loaned out as soon as we get a proper back up striker. To be fair, Duran has just turned 20, at that age Wilson was still at Coventry and getting loaned out to conference sides 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, andym said: To be fair, Duran has just turned 20, at that age Wilson was still at Coventry and getting loaned out to conference sides That's all fine, and it doesn't mean Duran WON'T come good, but my point is that I have not seen the "potential" to be better than Wilson at all. Not yet anyway. And that's what I was debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Miley looks a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Miley looks a player Won't be allowed to develop I don't think. Won't get a look in when they're healthy and can spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Their "crisis" lasted long. 8/9 at St James Park. Luton and Forest up next for them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Their "crisis" is a bit like Man Uniteds. More or less a perfectly normal season, but disappointing in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, GlobalVillan said: That's all fine, and it doesn't mean Duran WON'T come good, but my point is that I have not seen the "potential" to be better than Wilson at all. Not yet anyway. And that's what I was debating. Okay, fair enough, but it should be grounds for humility about how much visible 'potential' matters at this stage, to us fans anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Their "crisis" is a bit like Man Uniteds. More or less a perfectly normal season, but disappointing in Europe. They’re having a worse season in the league than last year though where they were in the top 4 consistently all year. Plus their CL performance is worse than they’d have hoped. Unless they win a domestic cup this season will have at best been treading water for them at this rate rather than progressing which their owners may be unhappy with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Precision Posted December 16, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2023 5 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Won't be allowed to develop I don't think. Won't get a look in when they're healthy and can spend. Could FFP be on dodgy ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, JPJCB said: They’re having a worse season in the league than last year though where they were in the top 4 consistently all year. Plus their CL performance is worse than they’d have hoped. Unless they win a domestic cup this season will have at best been treading water for them at this rate rather than progressing which their owners may be unhappy with They over achieved last season, this season is about the level they are at, European football at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Rather have wilson than duran as no 2 striker any day depsute the age. Durans young and green. He has potential to be bettee but right now wilson would better for us where we are as a club Wilson didn't want to come to us because we couldn't afford his ridiculous wage demands and contact length at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Wilson didn't want to come to us because we couldn't afford his ridiculous wage demands and contact length at the time We are talking hypothetically out of both of the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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