Popular Post Con Posted May 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) Notes: I've added up the minutes played for every player this season. I've included additional time in these figures on the logic that although no more than 90 minutes is in theory played per game, players have to retain their concentration and focus for the entire duration of the match, whether it is 93 minutes or 99. That statistic was not available at Squawka or Whoscored so I researched it myself, every match for each player. The record of minutes played enabled me to go through each match and log goals scored and conceded for each player, creating what in Ice Hockey is known as the "+/-" stat. I don't think I've made any errors but it's always possible (feel free to double-check the Bannan statistic). I've not researched the statistics for all squad players, just the regulars plus Sylla and Bowery (I thought people would want to know those). During the 2012-13 season Aston Villa scored one goal once every 80 minutes and conceded a goal once every 54 minutes. Player (minutes) Conceded/Scored (Goal difference) Passing percentage (chances created) Defence Lowton (3350) 64/42 (-22) 79% (21) Played the most minutes of all the outfield players this season. Our most effective attacking defender who frequently had most touches of the ball of all our players during the match. Lowton made tackles and interceptions at a higher rate than all other Villa players during the season. To show his importance to the team and his progress, at the beginning to the season people said Who? at the end the talk was Arsene Wenger was going to buy him for Arsenal if we got relegated. He also scored THAT goal against Stoke, which I think was Gary Neville's goal of the season, possibly the single most important goal that saved us from relegation. Vlaar (2528) 46/39 (-7) 82% (3) Statistics show that our defence was stronger with our most experienced defender in it. Ron Vlaar, Netherlands international and team captain, had a difficult first few months but came back strongly after 9 matches out through injury. From January to the end of the season Vlaar's record was: W6 D4 L4. He contributed two goals and when he was playing the team scored once every 65 minutes (15 minutes better than the team average). Clark (2673) 54/30 (-22) 81% (0) Very important to the team when the manager was still new, very inexperienced and kept switching systems; and Ron Vlaar, his partner in defence, was still getting used to the Premier League. The 5 clean sheets the defence achieved this season were all with Clark at centre-back. However, like most of the defence he was guilty at times of some embarrassing errors. As captain when Vlaar was out, there was an incredible amount of pressure on Clark to lead the youngest ever Villa team. While Vlaar was out for 9 games between November and January the team averaged 1 point per game: enough for survival (W2 D3 L4). Baker (2164) 40/28 (-12) 78% (7) The youngest defender became one of the most important toward the end of the season gaining valuable experience along the way. Whilst we could not keep clean sheets, Baker was solid enough and composed enough to do just enough to give our forwards the chance to win every game. When we were weak at set pieces Baker made us stronger: over the season winning 64% of his headed duels, slightly higher success rate than Vlaar and Clark. At times Baker was clumsy, scoring two own goals - although one of them was unavoidable - and conceded a penalty for a schoolboy challenge on Suarez. Bennett (1960) 45/29 (-16) 84% (10) The weakest link in the defence this season. The team conceded one goal every 44 minutes when Bennett was playing, worst rate for all players listed here, 10 minutes more frequent than the team average. On the plus side - perhaps the explanation why Lambert continued to play him - the team scored (a very impressive) 13 minutes more frequently than the team average when Bennett was on the pitch. The most accurate passer of all the defenders, Bennett's defensive game did improve slightly during the season but fans will no doubt have polarised opinions about this player's future in the team. Lichaj (1167) 15/16 (-1) 75% (5) Had a good season as a back-up player, being defensively solid. The defence conceded a goal once every 68 minutes when Lichaj played, compared to worse than once every 54 minutes when he didn't (although it helped that he was subbed when the score was 0-3 during the Christmas stuffing at Chelsea). Midfield Westwood (2578) 45/40 (-5) 86% (33) Recruited from Crewe in League Two, Westwood had a fantastic season and proved to be the "Carrick" type of player he suggested he was. Although he didn't do anything spectacular - the archetypal "water carrier" - he was mature beyond his years and did not let any occasion or any level of pressure get to him, a consistency which was incredibly vital to the young team. Westwood deservedly ended the season with 6 assists - the most in the team - which suggests even more room for improvement next season, and it's worth noting he achieved an 86% passing accuracy whilst passing backwards only 36% of the time. Delph (1803) 32/23 (-9) 88% (13) A loose bolt of electricity in the midfield, Delph helped recharge our season campaign after the Christmas stuffings (he was only involved in the Tottenham defeat). Delph tackled and made vital interceptions to give the team ball possession to create attacks, and frequently carried the ball forward to start attacks. Also showing Delph's importance to cleaning up our midfield, his passing percentage of 88% was the highest in the team for the season. He did not manage any goals or assists but his take-ons were successful 71% of the time and given improvement this unique aspect to his game may in future result goals and key passes. Sylla (615) 13/15 (+2) 84% (9) Not many games to really judge his performance. From what we do have, does not look like we took him from French Ligue 2. His starting record since his arrival is not at all shabby: W4 D1 L2. Bannan (1705) 34/21 (-13) 82% (34) Bannan was our most creative midfield player this season, in both absolute (comparative) and relative (per minute) terms. When Bannan played he was responsible for many of the set pieces (although he took less than half all corners taken this season) and gained of his 17 key passes from corners. His most consistent attribute was his accurate crosses and was unlucky not to get an assist when Baker headed on to the bar against Southampton. On the negative side, the team conceded more goals with Bannan on the pitch and while his set pieces were top class, he never appeared fully "settled" with the pace of the Premier League. El Ahmadi (1256) 23/10 (-13) 85% (13) A difficult first season, getting used to the pace of the Premier League. El Ahmadi did not bring our defence rating down but the attack was much less productive - we scored only once every 125 minutes when he played this season. Attack Benteke (2964) 61/40 (-21) 65% (51) Benteke played the second most minutes of all outfield players, scoring 19 goals during the season. His role as central striker and target man in part explains his low passing percentage of 65%: he was usually given the most difficult balls to control and the fewest passing options. The gif below shows my personal favourite Benteke goal of the season. Who would have thought he would score from 8 yards out when he received possession 45 yards from goal with a defender in front and one closing in behind/ This is Benteke in beast mode - direct, fearless, powerful and lethal. Agbonlahor (2274) 37/31 (-6) 81% (23) Gabby came on strong when the team needed him most, scoring vital goals at the end of the season against Reading, QPR and Nowich. His absence for 5 games through injury at the same time as Vlaar was surely one of the reasons for the Christmas Stuffings. This season showed he has still got the pace that defenders hate, and is the key player that makes Villa the most feared counter-attack team in the Premier League, along with Arsenal and Tottenham. Weimann (2336) 43/35 (-8) 79% (23) The third key element of the attacking line up which scored enough goals to keep us in the Premier League. When Weimann played the team scored every 67 minutes, which on paper made him a more influential attacking player for minutes played even than Gabby and Benteke (with whom we scored once every 73 and 74 minutes, respectively). This incredible fact is probably explained by Weimann's excellent movement which draws defenders out of position and creates attacking shooting and passing opportunities for his team mates. That requires a lot of hard work though and by the end of the season most fans thought his performances tailed off a bit, which is understandable because by then he must have been totally shagged. N'Zogbia (1053) 20/17 (-3) 80% (22) With the effectiveness of the Agbonlahor-Benteke-Weimann line up, N'Zogbia's opportunities were limited this season. When he did play it's fair to say his form was usually good. He scored a game winning free kick against West Ham and a goal that earned us a point against Fulham. Holman (1506) 32/12 (-20) 74% (24) Played early in the season when tactics were constantly changing and the new boys were still getting used to the Premier League. Scored a goal that gave us a point away at QPR and a couple of assists in the famous away victory when we destroyed Alan Hansen and Mark Lawrenson's favourite team. Bowery (333) 5/2 (-3) 85% (2) Not much data to go on. Our record when he starts is: W2 D1, which be bad.can't Edited May 20, 2013 by Con 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Interesting and balanced. Thanks for that. Couldn't resist scrolling down at first to check out the Bannan comments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Good post Con, a lot of effort gone into that. Pretty much agree with all of it, even the Bannan comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 20, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2013 Enjoyed that. Some interesting observations there Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted May 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2013 Not much data to go on. Our record when he starts is: W2 D1, which be bad.can't Thanks for the stats, Master Yoda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Sorry for the typos. Touchpad a bit touchy, moves words around when I scroll. More info. According to the +/- goal difference stat Our most attacking team - Lowton Vlaar Lichaj Bennett Sylla Westwood N'Zogbia Weimann Benteke Agbonlahor Our most defensive team - Lichaj Vlaar Baker El Ahmadi Westwood Delph N'Zogbia Bowery Weimann Agbonlahor I'm not sure that's particularly meaningful but those are the highest 9 players in each category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Credit where credit is due. Really good post Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Good post Con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Fantastic post. Found the Weimann stats particularly interesting. In the gif you posted, is it Weimann overlapping on the left? It seems to make the defender (Skrtel?) hesitate a split second, allowing Benteke in to score. Even if it is another player, Weimann was making runs like that all season, and I really enjoy watching him. Nowadays the focus is so much on technique, but having that kind of awareness at such a young age is a real gift. As you can see from the stats, when Gabby came back into the side, we ended up with an incredibly balanced front 3, each with different strengths. This meant we could play long ball football, counter attacks down the wings, Arsenal-style pass and move, and so on. Westwood clearly had a great season as well. I think Lambert is a good judge of character, and that's really important when you're building a team for the future. Westwood and Lowton in particular seem very mature, but so do Sylla, Bennett, Baker, and Weimann. Delph is growing, and the more self-centred players like Bent, Bannan, possibly N'Zogbia are being phased out of the team. I'm not a huge fan of Baker as a player (he seems like a good lad) but you make the very fair point that our perceived weakness on set pieces pretty much disappeared after he came in. He is excellent in the air. What I'm concerned about is his lack of pace and clumsiness on the deck, but maybe he will work around these issues, a la John Terry. All in all, an interesting season. I much prefer watching the team improve over the course of the season, as opposed to the slow grinding halt we watched under MON each year. Lambert will need to buy wisely this summer, and I think the retirement of Petrov and probable sale of Bent, etc. mean we need to buy some experience, preferably in the spine of the team (I don't agree with this idea of getting an experienced left back to challenge Bennett, it wouldn't offer good value). Has anyone recorded the key stat of how many times Guzan stormed out to shout at his defenders this season? That hair dryer has a future in management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Sorry for the typos. Touchpad a bit touchy That's the minimum I'd expect from it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Fantastic post. Found the Weimann stats particularly interesting. In the gif you posted, is it Weimann overlapping on the left? It seems to make the defender (Skrtel?) hesitate a split second, allowing Benteke in to score. It's a good example of a good run. I think that's Holman, who is also hard-working and an intelligent runner. Not quite as pacey and talented as the others though. Even if it is another player, Weimann was making runs like that all season, and I really enjoy watching him. Nowadays the focus is so much on technique, but having that kind of awareness at such a young age is a real gift. As you can see from the stats, when Gabby came back into the side, we ended up with an incredibly balanced front 3, each with different strengths. This meant we could play long ball football, counter attacks down the wings, Arsenal-style pass and move, and so on. Yes, it does seem to be a potent combination. Asks defences lots of different questions. They don't know who to be most scared of, when. Westwood clearly had a great season as well. I think Lambert is a good judge of character, and that's really important when you're building a team for the future. Westwood and Lowton in particular seem very mature, but so do Sylla, Bennett, Baker, and Weimann. Delph is growing, and the more self-centred players like Bent, Bannan, possibly N'Zogbia are being phased out of the team. I agree that Lambert is a good judge of character. Not sure I agree with the description of Bannan and N'Zogbia as "self-centred". Bannan worked as hard as his ability allowed. N'Zogbia put in a lot of effort. They are technical players with more creativity than Westwood, Sylla and Delph. That's not so much character as you can have technical players with strong characters. N'Zogbia works well under-pressure, hasn't his clubs always survived relegation? I'm not a huge fan of Baker as a player (he seems like a good lad) but you make the very fair point that our perceived weakness on set pieces pretty much disappeared after he came in. He is excellent in the air. What I'm concerned about is his lack of pace and clumsiness on the deck, but maybe he will work around these issues, a la John Terry. As I said before to quite a bit of mirth, there are two types of centre-back. Playmaking CB and traditional CB. Baker's a traditional CB. Traditional CBs have character, strength, height, strong basic defending skills like tackling and heading. Examples of traditional CB: Vidic, Ivanovic, Mertesacker, Huth. Baker is still building strength so will be bit beefier in a few years, but he will have to be a CB in this mould. Traditional CBs are usually most effectively paired with playmaking CBs - Ferdinand, Cahill, Koscielny - who are more talented footballers but less robust. All in all, an interesting season. I much prefer watching the team improve over the course of the season, as opposed to the slow grinding halt we watched under MON each year. Lambert will need to buy wisely this summer, and I think the retirement of Petrov and probable sale of Bent, etc. mean we need to buy some experience, preferably in the spine of the team (I don't agree with this idea of getting an experienced left back to challenge Bennett, it wouldn't offer good value). Yes, I much prefer this "project" to one under previous managers. MON's approach to team building was terrible, dependent on burning money, which he did to little effect and McCleish... just don't go there. Lambert has a bottom up approach, and seems to be thinking outside the box - bringing latest ideas from the German league and applying to Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 A few Comparisons with last season. HOME 2011/13 2012/13 Villa 0-1 Man U Villa 2-3 Man U Same points: 0 Villa 0-1 Man C Villa 0-1 Man C Same points: 0 Villa 2-4 Chelsea Villa 1-2 Chelsea Same points: 0 Villa 0-2 Liverpool Villa 1-2 Liverpool Same points: 0 Villa 1-2 Arsenal Villa 0-0 Arsenal 1 point better off Villa 1-1 Spurs Villa 0-4 Spurs 1 point worse off Villa 1-1 Everton Villa 1-3 Everton 1 point worse off Villa 1-0 Fulham Villa 1-1 Fulham 2 points worse off Villa 3-1 Blackburn Villa 1-0 Reading Same points: 3 Villa 0-0 Wolves Villa 2-1 West Ham 2 points better off Villa 1-2 Bolton Villa 0-1 Southampton Same points: 0 Villa 2-2 QPR Villa 3-2 QPR 2 points better off Villa 3-2 Norwich Villa 1-1 Norwich 2 points worse off Villa 1-1 Stoke Villa 0-0 Stoke Same points: 1 Villa 1-2 WBA Villa 1-1 WBA 1 point better off Villa 0-2 Swansea Villa 2-0 Swansea 3 points better off Villa 1-1 Newcastle Villa 1-2 Newcastle 2 points worse off Villa 2-0 Wigan Villa 0-3 Wigan 3 points worse off Villa 0-0 Sunderland Villa 6-1 Sunderland 3 points better off (LOL) Overall 1 point better off at home (ignoring the same points games) AWAY Sunderland 2-2 Villa Sunderland 0-1 Villa 2 points better off Wigan 0-0 Villa Wigan 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 Newcastle 2-1 Villa Newcastle 1-1 Villa 1 point better off Swansea 0-0 Villa Swansea 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 WBA 0-0 Villa WBA 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 Stoke 0-0 Villa Stoke 1-3 Villa 2 points better off Norwich 2-0 Villa Norwich 1-2 Villa 3 points better off QPR 1-1 Villa QPR 1-1 Villa Same points: 1 Bolton 1-2 Villa Southampton 4-1 Villa 3 points worse off Wolves 2-3 Villa West Ham 1-0 Villa 3 points worse off Blackburn 1-1 Villa Reading 1-2 Villa 2 points better off Fulham 0-0 Villa Fulham 1-0 Villa 2 points worse off Everton 2-2 Villa Everton 3-3 Villa Same points: 1 Spurs 2-0 Villa Spurs 2-0 Villa Same points: 0 Arsenal 3-0 Villa Arsenal 2-1 Villa Same points: 0 Liverpool 1:1 Villa Liverpool 1-3 Villa 2 points better off Chelsea 1-3 Villa Chelsea 8-0 Villa 3 points worse off Man C 4-1 Villa Man C 5-0 Villa Same points: 0 Man U 4-0 Villa Man U 3-0 Villa Same points: 0 1 point better off away (ignoring same points games) Got bored and wanted to do this. No h8 pls m8s. If you find any mistakes or holes in my maths and logic please point them out. I think its clear to see that with Mcleish the scorelines were low on the whole whereas with Lambert the scorelines were much higher and we were contesting in the games much better. IMPROVEMENT :3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 A few Comparisons with last season. HOME 2011/13 2012/13 Villa 0-1 Man U Villa 2-3 Man U Same points: 0 Villa 0-1 Man C Villa 0-1 Man C Same points: 0 Villa 2-4 Chelsea Villa 1-2 Chelsea Same points: 0 Villa 0-2 Liverpool Villa 1-2 Liverpool Same points: 0 Villa 1-2 Arsenal Villa 0-0 Arsenal 1 point better off Villa 1-1 Spurs Villa 0-4 Spurs 1 point worse off Villa 1-1 Everton Villa 1-3 Everton 1 point worse off Villa 1-0 Fulham Villa 1-1 Fulham 2 points worse off Villa 3-1 Blackburn Villa 1-0 Reading Same points: 3 Villa 0-0 Wolves Villa 2-1 West Ham 2 points better off Villa 1-2 Bolton Villa 0-1 Southampton Same points: 0 Villa 2-2 QPR Villa 3-2 QPR 2 points better off Villa 3-2 Norwich Villa 1-1 Norwich 2 points worse off Villa 1-1 Stoke Villa 0-0 Stoke Same points: 1 Villa 1-2 WBA Villa 1-1 WBA 1 point better off Villa 0-2 Swansea Villa 2-0 Swansea 3 points better off Villa 1-1 Newcastle Villa 1-2 Newcastle 2 points worse off Villa 2-0 Wigan Villa 0-3 Wigan 3 points worse off Villa 0-0 Sunderland Villa 6-1 Sunderland 3 points better off (LOL) Overall 1 point better off at home (ignoring the same points games) AWAY Sunderland 2-2 Villa Sunderland 0-1 Villa 2 points better off Wigan 0-0 Villa Wigan 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 Newcastle 2-1 Villa Newcastle 1-1 Villa 1 point better off Swansea 0-0 Villa Swansea 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 WBA 0-0 Villa WBA 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 Stoke 0-0 Villa Stoke 1-3 Villa 2 points better off Norwich 2-0 Villa Norwich 1-2 Villa 3 points better off QPR 1-1 Villa QPR 1-1 Villa Same points: 1 Bolton 1-2 Villa Southampton 4-1 Villa 3 points worse off Wolves 2-3 Villa West Ham 1-0 Villa 3 points worse off Blackburn 1-1 Villa Reading 1-2 Villa 2 points better off Fulham 0-0 Villa Fulham 1-0 Villa 2 points worse off Everton 2-2 Villa Everton 3-3 Villa Same points: 1 Spurs 2-0 Villa Spurs 2-0 Villa Same points: 0 Arsenal 3-0 Villa Arsenal 2-1 Villa Same points: 0 Liverpool 1:1 Villa Liverpool 1-3 Villa 2 points better off Chelsea 1-3 Villa Chelsea 8-0 Villa 3 points worse off Man C 4-1 Villa Man C 5-0 Villa Same points: 0 Man U 4-0 Villa Man U 3-0 Villa Same points: 0 1 point better off away (ignoring same points games) Got bored and wanted to do this. No h8 pls m8s. If you find any mistakes or holes in my maths and logic please point them out. I think its clear to see that with Mcleish the scorelines were low on the whole whereas with Lambert the scorelines were much higher and we were contesting in the games much better. IMPROVEMENT :3 You have put that we got 3 points better off from the home Sunderland game but it should only be 2 pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Great post con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 We got thrashed a lot more this season than last but the good games were better, and we scored many world class goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) I'm not a huge fan of Baker as a player (he seems like a good lad) but you make the very fair point that our perceived weakness on set pieces pretty much disappeared after he came in. He is excellent in the air. What I'm concerned about is his lack of pace and clumsiness on the deck, but maybe he will work around these issues, a la John Terry. As I said before to quite a bit of mirth, there are two types of centre-back. Playmaking CB and traditional CB. Baker's a traditional CB. Traditional CBs have character, strength, height, strong basic defending skills like tackling and heading. Examples of traditional CB: Vidic, Ivanovic, Mertesacker, Huth. Baker is still building strength so will be bit beefier in a few years, but he will have to be a CB in this mould. Traditional CBs are usually most effectively paired with playmaking CBs - Ferdinand, Cahill, Koscielny - who are more talented footballers Well that's not rocket science, but the really good "traditional" CBs nowadays tend to have a bit more pace than they used to. Vidic is quick, Campbell was very quick in his prime, Terry used to have a burst of pace (and started getting dropped when that went). Now of course these guys were among the very best in the world, so maybe I'm expecting too much. Mertesacker seems to get away with it, but he is a fantastic reader of the game. I don't think Baker is. I look forward to him proving me wrong. As for the self-centred players comment. Bannan has done some silly things off the pitch which you don't do if you're committed to the team. And while Zog has put in a great shift, he is known for being a slightly difficult character and he does tend to go for the highlight reels rather than the easy ball. I'm not criticising him, but I think Lambert has an idea about the kind of people he wants in his squad, and they are committed, down-to-earth characters who pull for the team. I think that's why he likes getting players from the lower leagues and from unfashionable clubs and countries - they're less likely to bring any baggage with them. Playing for Villa is a massive swell of pride for players like Sylla, Bowery, etc. while Given and Zog probably feel they've taken a wrong turn somewhere. Edited May 20, 2013 by KentVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 A few Comparisons with last season. HOME 2011/13 2012/13 Villa 0-1 Man U Villa 2-3 Man U Same points: 0 Villa 0-1 Man C Villa 0-1 Man C Same points: 0 Villa 2-4 Chelsea Villa 1-2 Chelsea Same points: 0 Villa 0-2 Liverpool Villa 1-2 Liverpool Same points: 0 Villa 1-2 Arsenal Villa 0-0 Arsenal 1 point better off Villa 1-1 Spurs Villa 0-4 Spurs 1 point worse off Villa 1-1 Everton Villa 1-3 Everton 1 point worse off Villa 1-0 Fulham Villa 1-1 Fulham 2 points worse off Villa 3-1 Blackburn Villa 1-0 Reading Same points: 3 Villa 0-0 Wolves Villa 2-1 West Ham 2 points better off Villa 1-2 Bolton Villa 0-1 Southampton Same points: 0 Villa 2-2 QPR Villa 3-2 QPR 2 points better off Villa 3-2 Norwich Villa 1-1 Norwich 2 points worse off Villa 1-1 Stoke Villa 0-0 Stoke Same points: 1 Villa 1-2 WBA Villa 1-1 WBA 1 point better off Villa 0-2 Swansea Villa 2-0 Swansea 3 points better off Villa 1-1 Newcastle Villa 1-2 Newcastle 2 points worse off Villa 2-0 Wigan Villa 0-3 Wigan 3 points worse off Villa 0-0 Sunderland Villa 6-1 Sunderland 3 points better off (LOL) Overall 1 point better off at home (ignoring the same points games) AWAY Sunderland 2-2 Villa Sunderland 0-1 Villa 2 points better off Wigan 0-0 Villa Wigan 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 Newcastle 2-1 Villa Newcastle 1-1 Villa 1 point better off Swansea 0-0 Villa Swansea 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 WBA 0-0 Villa WBA 2-2 Villa Same points: 1 Stoke 0-0 Villa Stoke 1-3 Villa 2 points better off Norwich 2-0 Villa Norwich 1-2 Villa 3 points better off QPR 1-1 Villa QPR 1-1 Villa Same points: 1 Bolton 1-2 Villa Southampton 4-1 Villa 3 points worse off Wolves 2-3 Villa West Ham 1-0 Villa 3 points worse off Blackburn 1-1 Villa Reading 1-2 Villa 2 points better off Fulham 0-0 Villa Fulham 1-0 Villa 2 points worse off Everton 2-2 Villa Everton 3-3 Villa Same points: 1 Spurs 2-0 Villa Spurs 2-0 Villa Same points: 0 Arsenal 3-0 Villa Arsenal 2-1 Villa Same points: 0 Liverpool 1:1 Villa Liverpool 1-3 Villa 2 points better off Chelsea 1-3 Villa Chelsea 8-0 Villa 3 points worse off Man C 4-1 Villa Man C 5-0 Villa Same points: 0 Man U 4-0 Villa Man U 3-0 Villa Same points: 0 1 point better off away (ignoring same points games) Got bored and wanted to do this. No h8 pls m8s. If you find any mistakes or holes in my maths and logic please point them out. I think its clear to see that with Mcleish the scorelines were low on the whole whereas with Lambert the scorelines were much higher and we were contesting in the games much better. IMPROVEMENT :3 You have put that we got 3 points better off from the home Sunderland game but it should only be 2 pal In fact he's right that we were 3 points better off but he's put the wrong score down; we lost 0-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'm pretty sure we didn't lose at home to Sunderland last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) edit Edited May 21, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'm pretty sure we didn't lose at home to Sunderland last season? No you're right actually, that was 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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