flashingqwerty Posted January 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 I hope we dont get bought by Arabs... or anyone tbh. We could end up with a Venkys or someone like Pompey had. Just stick with Randy, and once he's addressed the wages as much as he feels he needs to, he'll start spending again. i couldn't care less about the money thing really if i am honest, the major point is that since he took over he has not brought in 1 single person who has done anything to bring th club forward. Every appointment he has made has damaged the clubs stature and reputation and made incredibly bad decisions - its time Randy acknowledges that he hasnt a clue and either steps down or brings in someone who has a footballing background to run the show for him as he clearly isnt able fo the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I hope we dont get bought by Arabs... or anyone tbh. We could end up with a Venkys or someone like Pompey had. Just stick with Randy, and once he's addressed the wages as much as he feels he needs to, he'll start spending again. Yeah of course he will that's why a relegated Mcleish was the only manager who wanted the job. In order for us to be competitive and not get in the same financial mess we will need to sign quality players for fairly cheap wages. Can you see Mcleish doing this? Randy is clearly happy to be a nothing team just as long as that nothing team is in the prem. If he was prepared to spend in the future other managers would have been interested in the job. Mcleish took it because it was too good an offer for a manager who had just been relegated at a club with serious money issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I hope we dont get bought by Arabs... or anyone tbh. We could end up with a Venkys or someone like Pompey had. Just stick with Randy, and once he's addressed the wages as much as he feels he needs to, he'll start spending again. Surely this is as much a "clutching at straws" statement as those who are hoping to be taken over by QIA. How do you know RL will start spending again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I hope we dont get bought by Arabs... or anyone tbh. We could end up with a Venkys or someone like Pompey had. Just stick with Randy, and once he's addressed the wages as much as he feels he needs to, he'll start spending again. Err if Randy sells up, it will automatically to be someone better with shit loads of money. The grass is ALWAYS greener. Did you hold this idiotic view when doug was in charge? There is no guarantee it will be better but I'd say the chances of ending up with someone who runs the club worse would be unlikely. Signing someone from abroad to replace dunne or Heskey is not a guarantee that they will improve but it's worth the risk sometimes when it's clear you're going nowhere with what you've got. And surely it's the ones that don't rate randy that should be worried who he'll sell to. Surely you few that love him and see he can't do wrong would be confident that he'd sell to the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted January 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 well if he cant even appoint a competent manager or chief exec what are the chances he'll sell to anyone compentent? he'll probably sell us back to DOUG!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Can someone explain why a new owner is automatically better than Randy?No more McLeish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Can someone explain why a new owner is automatically better than Randy?No more McLeish. No more Faulkner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted January 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 Can someone explain why a new owner is automatically better than Randy?No more McLeish. No more Faulkner. sounds great - where do i sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makouns_grin Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 There is no guarantee it will be better but I'd say the chances of ending up with someone who runs the club worse would be unlikely. Signing someone from abroad to replace dunne or Heskey is not a guarantee that they will improve but it's worth the risk sometimes when it's clear you're going nowhere with what you've got. And surely it's the ones that don't rate randy that should be worried who he'll sell to. Surely you few that love him and see he can't do wrong would be confident that he'd sell to the right people. The difference's between getting a players signing right or wrong and getting the owner change right or wrong are massive. Its laughable that you even compare the two to be honest. Not wanting Randy gone doesn't mean i think he is perfect or can do no wrong, show me where i have said that without just making it up... You cannot be fickle about owners like players, far too much is at stake. Like err the existence of the club. You really have lost the plot as well if you think nobody can be much worse than Randy, how about the owners of Blackburn, who make bonkers decisions left right and centre? All Randy has really done is try and stabilise the club, got a manager in who vast majority of fans think is shit and doesn't tell everyone every single thing! If you can only be happy when we're spending money and apparently 'challenging' then there is no point you supporting Villa, because in years to come it might be like that, then again it might not. Your missing the point of the word 'support' as that would imply you would support them whatever. You seem to only like supporting when money is being spent and you feel like we're going to achieve something. Because if its not then the owner is shit, manager is shit, everything is shit. As shit as Darlington, are their owners on par with Randy, is it really that bad? Once again what about the hundreds of other clubs, are all their fans miserable and depressed because they feel they are not going anywhere? Are they not happy when their teams scores or wins, obviously not if you were to believe Villa fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Just go to www.getthegingertwatsout.com and sign the petition. Actually don't go on that website as it's probably a "relief" site containing pictures of Geri Halliwell and Gillian Anderson's clunges. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Can someone explain why a new owner is automatically better than Randy? Because they are bound to spend lots of money and take Villa to the top Ah ok, thank you. In that case Randy out! New random bloke in! It's all clear now, you obviously are concerned about Randy's ability to pick the right man, much as everybody else is. It is the only conclusion I can come to that explains your absolute worry about new owners. I guess looking at his recent background for applintments and choices both here and America, it's understandable you'd worry about his decision making the next time a big choice comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makouns_grin Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Can someone explain why a new owner is automatically better than Randy? Because they are bound to spend lots of money and take Villa to the top Ah ok, thank you. In that case Randy out! New random bloke in! It's all clear now, you obviously are concerned about Randy's ability to pick the right man, much as everybody else is. It is the only conclusion I can come to that explains your absolute worry about new owners. I guess looking at his recent background for applintments and choices both here and America, it's understandable you'd worry about his decision making the next time a big choice comes along. Why have you posted that again? I'm more interested how people KNOW that a new owner will be better? So quick to want him out for err... threatening the future of the club, asset stripping, not building a decent training ground perhaps selling it, not trying to balance the books and spending will nilly. Oh.. he has just stopped spending, stopped telling everyone everything (which has never done) and appointed an unpopular manager. Shit i thought it was something actually serious then, rather than people exaggerating things massively to make it sound worse than it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Potential stumbling block may be the Jew / Arab thing. We know they seldom pull off successful deals together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted January 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 so appointing a string of incompentents as chief exec and to the board (falkner, krulak) and the worst managers since Venglos (Houllier, Eck) arent cause for concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm more interested how people KNOW that a new owner will be better No one does. Like i said, did you hold this same idiotic view when doug was in charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 appointed an unpopular manager. Shit i thought it was something actually serious then Replace the word 'unpopular' with 'poor' and it is pretty serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted January 5, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 appointed an unpopular manager. Shit i thought it was something actually serious then Replace the word 'unpopular' with 'poor' and it is pretty serious. replace the word 'poor' with 'embarrassingly poor' and we're a little past serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makouns_grin Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 so appointing a string of incompentents as chief exec and to the board (falkner, krulak) and the worst managers since Venglos (Houllier, Eck) arent cause for concern? Yeah its not great never said it is, but finding a perfect manager is not easy for any club or any manager, a solid one is like gold dust. Fans shouldn't be trusted though, at the start of the season Arsenal fans were calling for Wengers head with names such as Coyle as a suggestion. The same Coyle that this season has come a cropper and proven not all that, whilst Wenger has come good again. If they had listened to some moronic fans they would be even worse! Lerner's decided on Eck, god knows why he is shit, but i dont know what he could or couldn't afford or what basis it may or may not have on the running of the club. So go ahead sack him, get someone else in that will instantly be good, not piss off any fans/players and cost no money to move all parties around. Job done. Saying he is shit get someone else doesn't work in the real world i'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrums Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Can someone explain why a new owner is automatically better than Randy? Because they are bound to spend lots of money and take Villa to the top Ah ok, thank you. In that case Randy out! New random bloke in! It's all clear now, you obviously are concerned about Randy's ability to pick the right man, much as everybody else is. It is the only conclusion I can come to that explains your absolute worry about new owners. I guess looking at his recent background for applintments and choices both here and America, it's understandable you'd worry about his decision making the next time a big choice comes along. Why have you posted that again? I'm more interested how people KNOW that a new owner will be better? So quick to want him out for err... threatening the future of the club, asset stripping, not building a decent training ground perhaps selling it, not trying to balance the books and spending will nilly. Oh.. he has just stopped spending, stopped telling everyone everything (which has never done) and appointed an unpopular manager. Shit i thought it was something actually serious then, rather than people exaggerating things massively to make it sound worse than it is? Absolute bollocks again from you. Round of applause sir, you deserve it. So, Blackburn fans should just accept the Venkys, simply because they might sell it off to some mad man who wants to asset strip the entire club and sell everything off? Docile supporters should continue to spend their hard earned money every week, but they should shut up as you never know someone bad might come along and destroy the club, or he might do this, or that. Supporters around the world should accept the shit put in front of them week in week out for £30-40 a week based on the proposition that something MIGHT happen. What absolute cobblers. Throughout history people should therefore have accepted their mundane, boring lives, because if they revolted the status quo MIGHT do something, or some scenario MIGHT happen. YAWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 so appointing a string of incompentents as chief exec and to the board (falkner, krulak) and the worst managers since Venglos (Houllier, Eck) arent cause for concern? Yeah its not great never said it is, but finding a perfect manager is not easy for any club or any manager, a solid one is like gold dust. . How about someone half decent, maybe someone who hasnt managed to releagte the team he is manager of twice in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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