Ulver Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Here me out. Baker did a decent enough job yesterday, even though he's clearly not a left back. But he does look to have matured as a player What if we tried 3-5-2 ? Clark - Vlaar - Baker (not necessarily in that order) To my eyes Lowton looks better going forward than he does defending. I think i've heard he even played in midfield a few times for Sheff United. Maybe give the lad a bit more freedom and start him as a wing back. On the left (unless we buy one ... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE) what about Charlie as a wing back ?, he's played full back before (and pretty well from memory) so maybe just maybe it could work. Plus he'd have to stay wide then and it might give him the discipline his game so badly lacks right now The middle 3 would need a bit of tweaking, but if going with what we have now i'd go KEA - Ireland - Bannan. Clearly not much of 'bite' but all decent users of the ball. Delph just doesn't do anything for me sadly, a couple of good cross field balls a match and not a lot else. Up top it'd be Bent and Gabby (when fit) of course So ... only on what we have now ------------- Clark - Vlaar - Baker ------------- Lowton ---------------------------------- Charlie ------------ Ireland - KEA - Bannan ------------ ------------------- Bent / Gabby ---------------- Might work, might not. Just a thought UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milenko27 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 It has its positives when meeting teams playing narrow, problem is when meeting teams who plays with and has good wingers, then you end up with a 5-3-2 formation instead and you will need one hell of a hold up player in front, striker or central midfielder to give the rest of the team time to come forward attacking... When that is said, Italy did that very well in the Euros, but they have Pirlo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 19, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2012 ------------- Clark - Vlaar - Baker ------------- Lowton ---------------------------------- Charlie ------------ Ireland - KEA - Bannan ------------ ------------------- Bent / Gabby ---------------- Compare and contrast: ------- Southgate - Ehiogu - McGrath --------- Charles ------------------------------ Wright -------- Draper - Taylor - Townsend ------- ------------- Yorke ---- Milosoevic---------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarrieBlue Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 One game ni to a new season, with a new manager who has a completely different playing style to our previous manager and suggestions of a change of style are being made. 3-5-2 is old hat, The latest version of this is Man City's 3-2-3-1-1, a club that have enough personnel to play any style they wish very well. We don't have that number or quality of personnel, but I'm confident this will improve over this and next season. The best we can do to match City's style in my opinion is ----------------Lowton - Vlaar - Clark----------- -----------------------Delph - KEA---------------- ----------------Holman - Bannan - N'Zog-------- -------------------------- Ireland ----------------- --------------------------- Bent ----------------- To improve that team we need someone better to replace Ireland, who could then move to Bannan's slot, who could move out to take N'Zog's place. Keane had the nous and brains to fill the Ireland role last season, Dempsey would be ideal for this, but I think that's a long shot. Maybe the new Euro scout has someone in mind . The option to N'Zog's place is Adam Johnson, but again it's a long shot. I think 10th is the best we'll do this year and after reading through the hysteria in the ''Relegation'' thread that would be acceptable to many right now. Yesterday we had 65% possession away from home, I can't remember we had that percentage at home. Lambert is at the beginning of his reign, it's plain to see how he wants us to play and it will take time, so, as the saying goes; KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 This isn't 1996 and Blur, Oasis and Pulp don't rule the charts1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarrieBlue Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 This isn't 1996 and Blur, Oasis and Pulp don't rule the charts1 That was a good time wasn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wouldn't trust CNZ tbh. Hes just not good enough. He wouldn't track back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturdaygig Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 ------- Southgate - Ehiogu - McGrath --------- Charles ------------------------------ Wright -------- Draper - Taylor - Townsend ------- ------------- Yorke ---- Milosoevic---------- Looks quite attracted viewed from here, doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I will be quite angry if we play 1 up front at home to everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 we've only got 2 fit strikers in Bent and Weimman, with both Gabby and Delfouneso injured. I think we played one up front yesterday because of this - imagine if we'd gone 4-4-2 from the start and picked up another injury??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarrieBlue Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I will be quite angry if we play 1 up front at home to everton I think City will today, but, they have much better player's than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I'd like to see 3-5-2 also. 4-3-3 doesn't suit us. I was at upton yesturday we were too narrow, we can't pass well enough to pass through teams. 4-4-2 we'd be over run in centre midfield. 4-5-1 bent would be isolated. there would be a lot of responsibility for the wide men. If N'Zogbia was on the wing would he track back? no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 4-4-2 is dead, deal with it. 4-3-3/4-5-1/4-2-3-1 is the new formation everyone uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 4-3-3 was dead once, until somebody tried it and got it to work well again. Formations come and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteEndRob Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 We can't defend with 4 at the back. Playing with 3 at the back would be suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I quite like the idea. I think we'd need someone like Huddlestone to screen infront of the back 3 so that if Zog gets caught up field, Clark can just move across to left-back and Huddlestone can just slip into the middle as cover. I think it'd be the most likely we'd ever see N'Zogbia being useful in a Villa shirt tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks1876 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I would love to see Vlaar playing a DM post at some stage, not sure if were ready yet but he does love to attack from what i saw yesterday and not scare of hitting the ball from 30 yards at goal (If only there was a baloon on the pitch). I said it before Bent and Gabby are not Captains and with Petrov still inrecovery and unlikely to play an active roll again we need a leader in midfield, someone who can drive the team to attack or pull them back to deffend "My vote goes out for Vlaar" Ok it's early days and he may prove to be a flop, but he has heart, if Villa fans love him he will loves us back and prove to be the best signing since Paul Mcgrath, Dennis Mortimer or even peter Withe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 This isn't 1996 and Blur, Oasis and Pulp don't rule the charts1 That was a good time wasn't it. Apart from Blur, Oasis and Pulp dominating the charts. Yes, Yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 This isn't 1996 and Blur, Oasis and Pulp don't rule the charts1 That was a good time wasn't it. Anyway - we need to play in a formation and style that suits the players we have at the club. I'm not sure 3-5-2 is that way - especially as we only have two fit central defenders at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Here me out. Baker did a decent enough job yesterday, even though he's clearly not a left back. But he does look to have matured as a player What if we tried 3-5-2 ? Clark - Vlaar - Baker (not necessarily in that order) To my eyes Lowton looks better going forward than he does defending. I think i've heard he even played in midfield a few times for Sheff United. Maybe give the lad a bit more freedom and start him as a wing back. On the left (unless we buy one ... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE) what about Charlie as a wing back ?, he's played full back before (and pretty well from memory) so maybe just maybe it could work. Plus he'd have to stay wide then and it might give him the discipline his game so badly lacks right now The middle 3 would need a bit of tweaking, but if going with what we have now i'd go KEA - Ireland - Bannan. Clearly not much of 'bite' but all decent users of the ball. Delph just doesn't do anything for me sadly, a couple of good cross field balls a match and not a lot else. Up top it'd be Bent and Gabby (when fit) of course So ... only on what we have now ------------- Clark - Vlaar - Baker ------------- Lowton ---------------------------------- Charlie ------------ Ireland - KEA - Bannan ------------ ------------------- Bent / Gabby ---------------- Might work, might not. Just a thought UTV You need 3 good centre halves for that to work. we only have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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