CI Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Am I the only one secretly enjoying being in a relegation battle? I mean, I don't want us relegated but its nice having something to play for... No, just me? Just you, probably. Not me. I guess a relation scrap once every 15 years might be of interest. But this is the 3rd year on the spin now. I absolutely hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Am I the only one secretly enjoying being in a relegation battle? I mean, I don't want us relegated but its nice having something to play for... No, just me? Just you, probably. Not me. I guess a relation scrap once every 15 years might be of interest. But this is the 3rd year on the spin now. I absolutely hate it. Pretty much. I kind of enjoyed the thrill the first time. By now I just resent it. Tired of seeing my club descend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 It’s always 38-40 points required an this season will be no different. The funny thing is that in Feb every year it looks like there is no chance the bottom teams will get enough points to get close to 40 but every season the bottom teams scrape together the results. You need to check your facts. Last season 37 points was enough (in fact QPR would have stayed up with 36). 2009 West Ham stayed up with 35, 2008 Hull stayed up with 35. 2007 Fulham stayed up with 36. So in only one of the last five seasons did you need more than 38 points (Wolves needed 39 in 2010-11) I don't for one minute think that 35 should be our target but I do think that one of Norwich, Stoke, Sunderland or Wigan might struggle to put many more points on the board. Even given our poor goal difference I think it could be possible to stay up with 36 points but obviously 40+ would be much more comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 No way is 35 enough That shouldn't be our target but it might be enough. I think 38 will see us safe although 40 would feel much more comfortable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I think we'll need the full 40pts this season. Everyone around us is picking up points and of the ones who are struggling, I would expect Stoke and Sunderland to do something between now and the end of the season. Form is temporary and they'll break out of it sooner or later. We've won 3 in 4 and yet we're still only 2pts off the drop. If we can beat Fulham then I'll begin to breathe more easily but that game is far from a sure thing. They're playing very well and we're crap at home. But given next week's fixtures, if we did beat them then I think we'd find ourselves quite far from the relegation zone with our rivals having mostly tripped up. 2) "Everyone around us is picking up points" - No they're not. Stoke have picked up 1 from the last 15, Stoke 2 from the last 15 and Norwich 3 from the last 15. They're all dropping like stones You can't chop a sentence in half when the second half of it is extremely relevant to where I was coming from. The teams that have been down there all along are now picking up points. The teams that are getting sucked into it will not continue to lose all of their games. It is likely that they'll begin to start picking up points again. We are 2pts off the drop with 6 games to go and you think 2 more points will see us safe. Absolutely mental. No I don't think 2 more points will see us safe. My point was that it is so tight this season that someone could stay up on 35 points. In the last five seasons 35 points was enough to be safe twice, 36 points once and 37 points once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Aim for 40 and we're sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 40+ i reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Until we have more points than Stoke I wont be confident of staying up. Even though Norwich are in free fall they only need one win from 6 games to secure Prem status and they are only one point ahead of Stoke. I fear that our goal difference will comeback to haunt us come final day of the season. Come on you villa boys! win this weekend and we can take masive hope going into the last 5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 38 - probably enough - 39 definitley enough 36 after sat .....were almost there (thats the most important stat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 38/39 2 wins or 1 win and 2 draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 51 and we're definitely safe!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 The best table we can hope for after the weekend. 14. Villa 36 15. Norwich 35 16. Stoke 34 17. Wigan 31 18. Sunderland 31 19. QPR 24 20. Reading 23 Certainly not a fantasy when you look at the fixtures. We've put ourselves in a position now where this coming game could be the key game to our survival. I think if we manage to get to this position then it could give us a big psychological edge on some of the other sides. Having said that it could just be necessary to get there with Man Utd and a fired up Sunderland coming up next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I am quietly confident at the moment, but won't relax until/ if we beat Fulham on Saturday. Win that and I'll be pretty relaxed about us picking enough points after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) What if we lose against Fulham with Man U next? Apart from CI is anyone else even considering that? Edited April 10, 2013 by Morpheus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Well fulham made Newcastle wait til the 90 something minute I think we have a better attack than them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 But a worse defence. Would really love us to beat Fulham but i'm worried that we'll fall flat on our faces again when the expectation level has become higher due to our previous two results. Hopefully not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 10, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Newcastle had a lot of chances against Fulham. We can definitely get goals against them... it's just a matter how how many they score against us. Edited April 10, 2013 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamsonwoodVillan Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I said last week that the Stoke game would be a better bet for a win than the Fulham game. Now that we have beaten Stoke I just hope my initial worries about Fulham turn out to be off target. Fulham undoubtedly have more quality than Stoke, but with them safe and cemented in mid table to the end of the season it's actually the sort of game that any threatened team would be looking to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 The best table we can hope for after the weekend. 14. Villa 36 15. Norwich 35 16. Stoke 34 17. Wigan 31 18. Sunderland 31 19. QPR 24 20. Reading 23 Certainly not a fantasy when you look at the fixtures. We've put ourselves in a position now where this coming game could be the key game to our survival. I think if we manage to get to this position then it could give us a big psychological edge on some of the other sides. Having said that it could just be necessary to get there with Man Utd and a fired up Sunderland coming up next. 14th and I would start to get vertigo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 i realise that for the past couple of wins weve had, ive still be quite negative about them, but only because in a way, i feel that they are hollow victories.. when were winning games and playing well, theres still a chance that lerner will use this to refuse to improve the squad, which we desperately need onto to relegation, there does seem more of a chance that we will now stay up, but theres still a chance we could be dragged back down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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